Silly Things You've Seen In Other Metagames

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Mulan15262 said:
Shuckle is not 1v1 nonsense. It simply isn't used much in OU due to the opponent just switching out to something that can destroy it. In 1v1, though, you don't have such a luxury, and most of Shuckle's counters aren't too useful in the 1v1 metagame.
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On the other hand, there is no excuse for a Shuckle with Bide.
 
Hclegend

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Regi likes pie said:
I feel like shedinja itself is something that deserves to litter this whole thread.
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inb4 people say Sturdinja
Seriously, in Hackmons and BH, Shedinja is REALLY good. Thanks to Sturdy, Shedinja essentily has a permemant Focus Sash, making it nigh unkillible without Status or MoldBreaker (Or any of it's cones) and thanks toStirdym it can hold an item. In my case? Lum Berry cause fuck status. Not only that, but Sturdinja can have ENDAVOUR! WITH 1HP. Enjoy that.
In all seriousness, in BH and Hackmons, Sturdinja is good, anything else? I can't comment in that :P
 
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Hclegend said:
inb4 people say Sturdinja
Seriously, in Hackmons and BH, Shedinja is REALLY good. Thanks to Sturdy, Shedinja essentily has a permemant Focus Sash, making it nigh unkillible without Status or MoldBreaker (Or any of it's cones) and thanks toStirdym it can hold an item. In my case? Lum Berry cause fuck status. Not only that, but Sturdinja can have ENDAVOUR! WITH 1HP. Enjoy that.
In all seriousness, in BH and Hackmons, Sturdinja is good, anything else? I can't comment in that :P
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:/ It's really hard for me to accept Shedinja as "Decent", it just seems kinda sub-par for me... And the only reason I say this is because I've never personally used it (And most times i've seen it, it can barely stand on its own)

Mold breaker pursuit FTW
 
TM13IceBeam

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Hclegend said:
inb4 people say Sturdinja
Seriously, in Hackmons and BH, Shedinja is REALLY good. Thanks to Sturdy, Shedinja essentily has a permemant Focus Sash, making it nigh unkillible without Status or MoldBreaker (Or any of it's cones) and thanks toStirdym it can hold an item. In my case? Lum Berry cause fuck status. Not only that, but Sturdinja can have ENDAVOUR! WITH 1HP. Enjoy that.
In all seriousness, in BH and Hackmons, Sturdinja is good, anything else? I can't comment in that :P
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Sturdy Shedinja by itself is alright.

Sheer Cold Shedinja is probably something worth posting in this thread though.
 
Fencerman

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Regi likes pie said:
:/ It's really hard for me to accept Shedinja as "Decent", it just seems kinda sub-par for me... And the only reason I say this is because I've never personally used it (And most times i've seen it, it can barely stand on its own)

Mold breaker pursuit FTW
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It is mediocre because there is really only one viable set for it. Shedinja is too predictable and can be countered by a variety of things, all of which are found in the hackmons environment. Sturdinja belongs in BH and only BH.

EDIT:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-131388660
Pain Split tho

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-131389592
Wobbuffet, I can understand. Predicting a special move from a Weavile is a different story.
 
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michaeloche

Fencerman said:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-131389592
Wobbuffet, I can understand. Predicting a special move from a Weavile is a different story.
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What makes this worse is that Mirror Coat wouldn't have done anything even if Weavile had used a special move.

Edit: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-131481760
Focus Miss X-zard vs. Giga Impact Regigigas.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/tiershift-131477157
Mono Normal vs. mono Ice in Tier Shift... that's not something you see every day.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/hackmons-131481348
Horn Drill Magikarp new meta. Ironically taking out M-Gyarados.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/customgame-131484263
Okay, Custom Game isn't exactly a meta, but this guy had 6 Gigaliths. The chat is the best part of this one, though.
 
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srn347

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Unfortunately I don't have a replay for this (I uploaded the replay but it's out of time range), but when my friend (who I will not name because if I did this stuff I wouldn't want people to know) started hackmons and had a test battle against me as his first battle, it included some of the silliest things one could imagine, such as:

perish song dive blissey without shadow tag (he thought dive would evade perish song killing her, even though just switching would work better)
dig garchomp that mega evolves with actual garchompite (he's good at OU and knows that dig isn't even good in PU, I can't imagine why he thought it would suddenly be good in hackmons)
deoxys-speed with no guard, spore, and 3 OHKO moves (how many times have you seen that before)
speed boost salamence (not inherently badly designed, but outclassed to the point where you might as well nickname it mismagius)
and
wondereye with basically the moveset of a regular sableye (will-o-wisp, knock off, shadow sneak, recover)
 

michaeloche

Random replays for your viewing pleasure, and to laugh at these poor saps unfortunate folks:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/hackmons-132207596
Normally, I'd have some witty comment. I have nothing for this one, especially the ending.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/hackmons-132209232
Jump Kick Swampert, anyone? And then the contained rage at the end.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-132207503
Coil vs. Minimize, and the chat.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/cap-132210007
Assist Cats and no CAP mons. Also, Shell Smashing on a priority user.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-132214747
Luvdisc. Only Luvdisc.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/balancedhackmons-132215688
Well, that's an unconventional Kyurem-B set. Don't put it to sleep, though.

Bonus: Lunatone vs. Honchkrow in a sky battle. What does Lunatone use? Earth Power.
 
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AnybodyAgrees said:
Except there's Thousand Arrows to get rid of Electric Wonder Guarders.
And Play Rough to get rid of wondertomb/wondereye.
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Yeah, but Regi has a point. What if you go up against a Meloetta and don't have Knock Off or a Bug move? At least Struggle is guaranteed to hit through WG.
 
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AnybodyAgrees said:
Except there's Thousand Arrows to get rid of Electric Wonder Guarders.
And Play Rough to get rid of wondertomb/wondereye.
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^^ yeah, same with Scizor's one weakness. If you bring in a hugepower, its predicted that you'll use sacred fire (or whatever's the gen 6 physical fire) and struggle will give you a nice edge over your opponent. Not much damage, but still damage.
 
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