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Smogon Usage-Based Tier Update: December 2015 (Read the OP)

Discussion in 'Competitive Discussion' started by Antar, Dec 4, 2015.

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  1. Mikael

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    oh boy,gyarados in UU
    still no conk or syl :/
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  2. Melons-N-Soda

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    | 62 | Smeargle | 3.285% |

    Smeargle in NU would be interesting. Just give or take a few months before that's possible.
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  3. Aberforth

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    | 46 | Ambipom | 5.690% |

    At least it's decreasing. Lets take the positives.
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  4. Eternally

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    "Abomasnow moved from RU to NU"

    This thing is going to be huge. With its ability to break weather and spam 100% accurate Blizzard it becomes a nice check to rain teams. Not to mention that almost nothing can switch into the mixed set bar perhaps Mega Audino. Also should be interesting to see if hail makes a comeback, considering we now have 2 very potent threats in Aboma as well as Specs Aurorus. Looking forward to building with this!

    Amphy is pretty cool, however I doubt it'll make much of a splash. I can see Agility + 3 attacks being its most popular set, however it really isnt anything special.
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  5. Melons-N-Soda

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    Soundproof is cool as well to cockblock Specs Swellow. Heat Wave is a bitch though.
  6. galbia

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    Pelipper moved from PU to NU

    BAN MACHOKE
  7. Based Honker

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    Manectric in RU will probably be the first thing I'm trying. Finally an electric type not named zebstrika that can hit steelix and grass types with a move that isn't hidden power.
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  8. ChrystalFalchion

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    Oh please let Jirachi drop to UU. It would be so good there. Aggron in NU would be interesting (not necessarily broken)
  9. Tymano

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    Please no Rachi, when it was in the tier it was super annoying. Let Sylveon, Alakazam, Conkeldurr, Celebi and Mew drop down first.
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    I personally preferred Calm Mind Jirachi to ParaFlinch. I could get behind Sylveon, Mew and Conkeldurr, although I think Alakazam's Speed and power would be too much for the tier.
  11. DragonWhale

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    I have a feeling Ambipom would've dropped long ago if people didn't talk about it staying in RU every tier update.
  12. Tymano

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    We have had Alakazam before, it was fine. I also meant it was more annoying to face not just because of hax, but also the fact that it could run a myriad of different sets, from paraflinch, scarf, CM, Lure, Specs/Band, Defensive, and pivot meant that many times, I'd want to run 2 answers to it on some of my bulkier teams.
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  13. ChrystalFalchion

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    Mew would be no better in that regard, as it can run just about anything given its massive movepool. It'll be interesting trying Gyarados in UU, poor Feraligatr might get pushed out.
  14. lolbro

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    The thing with gatr is its stro ger after the sf boost which also negates recoil, feraligatr also gets priority
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  15. astroboy

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    i have a better chance of getting laid than zam has of dropping
  16. nv

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    Gyarados' main niche is a great blanket check thanks to it having decent synergy with the Ground types in the tier since they tank both of Gyarados' weaknesses. It is most likely going to be a staple on nearly every archetype since it can fulfill so many roles (cleaner, bulky attacker, physical "wall", etc.) It also has access to a few good support moves such as Taunt and Thunder Wave (no Roost tho). This thing will be fun for sure.
  17. Tymano

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    | 60 | Alakazam | 2.507% |

    Zam has a much better chance lol.
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  18. lockjaw

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    this year will get pretty crazy
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  19. Merkur_Lampe

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    If the usage stats stay the same predicted next tier shifts are
    | 54 | Gyarados-Mega | 2.708% | OU to UU
    | 60 | Alakazam | 2.507% | OU to UU
    | 66 | Cloyster | 3.354% | UU to RU
    | 67 | Honchkrow | 3.277% | UU to RU
    | 61 | Trevenant | 3.300% | RU to NU
    | 62 | Smeargle | 3.285% | RU to NU
    | 61 | Pinsir | 3.407% | NU to PU
    | 64 | Cryogonal | 2.635% | NU to PU
    | 63 | Crustle | 3.094% | NU to PU

    close ones are(less than .2%)
    | 52 | Celebi | 3.566% | OU to UU
    | 53 | Alakazam-Mega | 3.445% | OU to BL
    | 64 | Haxorus | 3.569% | UU to RU
    | 65 | Hoopa | 3.530% | UU to RU
    | 62 | Gourgeist-Super | 3.356% | PU to NU
    | 59 | Regirock | 3.582% | NU to PU
    | 60 | Prinplup | 3.420% | NU to PU
    Am I missing any?
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  20. Magnemite

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    ffs NU you were supposed to GIVE us a hazard remover, not take yet another one

    AND PLEASE DONT GIVE US CRUSTLE NOW LOL
  21. dunsparce86

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    "Gyarados moved from OU to UU"

    Amazing.
  22. Merkur_Lampe

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    They might give PU Crygonal and Prinplup next tier shift, hopefully.
    But then, they can still give Crustle and Regirock
    YAY rocks
  23. dysbber162

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    Mega Alakazam is banned in UU, so if the usage stays that way it will drop to BL. I think Celebi is also banned, but i'm not quite sure.

    Also:
    Why
    There's a silver lining. I'm looking forward to the next tier shift.
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  24. Mikael

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    Stop.jpg
    I DON'T WANT THIS THING IN UU
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  25. Kurona

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    >Acting as if it won't be insta-banned
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