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Data Smogon Usage-Based Tier Update: February 2016

Discussion in 'Smogon Metagames' started by Antar, Feb 4, 2016.

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  1. Q10jj34eeDnK

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    Ugh, fine. You win.

    I was just so used to not seeing it.
  2. ChrystalFalchion

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    Where have you been? I've been laddering on NU lately it seems like 1/3 teams use Hariyama. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's a great mon.

    If Conkeldurr were to drop to UU, it would probably eclipse Machamp due to its superior bulk and access to Drain Punch.
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    Who's the one talking about a Pokemon being on 1/3 teams?
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    I was talking about Hariyama being on 1/3 NU teams, in case that wasn't clear.
  5. theDSC

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    Have to disagree with some of them here

    Don't know why sableye would be dropping. Last time it was there it got quickbanned after like 4 days. Yes it may face competition with whimsicott as a prankster user, but I think it has enough to distinguish itself
  6. Q10jj34eeDnK

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  7. Eclipse

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  8. Martin

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    I doubt Trev will even be worth using in NU given that its outclassed by exactly the same stuff there as it is in RU unless I'm missing something
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  9. Merkur_Lampe

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    Based on the usage
    | 52 | Sylveon | 3.182% | OU to UU
    | 53 | Conkeldurr | 3.177% | OU to UU
    | 54 | Altaria-Mega | 3.168% | OU to BL
    | 58 | Alakazam-Mega | 2.764% | OU to BL
    | 68 | Honchkrow | 3.301% | UU to RU
    | 55 | Sawk | 4.074% | BL3 to RU
    | 60 | Gurdurr | 3.711% | RU to NU
    | 61 | Gastrodon | 3.147% | RU to NU
    | 62 | Smeargle | 3.066% | RU to NU
    | 63 | Trevenant | 2.842% | RU to NU
    | 65 | Aggron | 2.654% | RU to NU
    | 59 | Pinsir | 3.388% | NU to PU
    | 60 | Muk | 3.337% | NU to PU
    | 61 | Torterra | 3.228% | NU to PU
    | 62 | Cacturne | 3.031% | NU to PU
    DROPS INCOMING
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  10. Stocke

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    that's assuming that the usage statistics for each tier will stay exactly the same this month as they were last month, which is unlikely. in particular, some of the Pokémon with more than 3% usage last month but less than the 3.414% threshold will most likely stay in their current tiers if they get even a little bit more usage. (though it's very hard to say for sure, I'm not a time-traveler)

    but more to the point I wouldn't be opposed to most of these drops if they ended up happening
  11. Q10jj34eeDnK

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    Bl3 can never hold more than one Pokemon at a time, can it?
  12. Tymano

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    It can hold any number of pokemon at a time, since BL's are the banlists of lower tiers.
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    i think hes making a joke about how all the mons we ban go RU by usage right after
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    Everytime you guys give the slightest clue sylveon and conkeldurr are dropping to UU, Shiba makes it his mission to spam them on the ladder so that they don't drop. He's the hero UU needs, yet the villain OU hates.
    Our Hero Shiba (open)
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    Isn't this why we started weighting stats in the first place
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  16. Antar

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    If a player is spamming a well-constructed team that performs *well enough* on the ladder, weighted stats won't (and shouldn't) filter out that kind of spamming. Think: when Molk got Metang into RU last gen.
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  17. Take Azelfie

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    SpinBlocking it powerful there for KangaSpikes which sometimes relies on a Choice Band Gourgeist, Trev is an upgrade because of Natural Cure and better Grass-STAB
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    As we stand upon the cusp of the next tier shift, I have with me my predictions for the rises and drops.

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    OU
    Drops:
    Conkeldurr, Sylveon, and Celebi (This one is more of a hope than a reality)

    Rises: Not sure how it goes with it, but Amoonguss looks like it'll be rising somewhere, if not OU then UU
    EDIT: oh and zap yeah

    UU
    Drops:
    Honchkrow, Haxorus, and Mandibuzz (Rest in pieces if this happens, RU)

    Rises: Nothing that I could find. At least we didn't steal anything from you.

    RU
    Drops:
    Smeargle, maybe? I'm not too sure how RU is, but guessing on usage stats isn't too far-flung considering last month it was at 3.5%. Oh, and MAYBE Trevenant

    Rises: Omastar, potentially. Again, not too sure with RU.

    NU
    Drops:
    Again, based on Usage, looks like Regirock is the only realistic drop from NU. Eat your hearts out, PU. Potentially Torterra too.

    Rises: Maybe Beheeyem, not 100% sure on that.
    Last edited: May 2, 2016
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  19. Aubisio

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    Don't forget Floatzel might go to NU
  20. Take Azelfie

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    NU might get Aggron people need to start fucking using Jolteon and use a good Electric-type :[
  21. Drangonn.

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    Welp time to spam Mandibuzz stall everyone
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    And Gurdurr might be returning to NU.
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    Here is my list of cringeworthy opinions :)

    Drops:
    • Sylveon: OU to UU
    • Conkelldur: OU to UU
    • Celebi: OU to UU
    • Vaporeon: UU to RU
    • Haxorus: UU to RU
    • Mandibuzz: UU to RU
    • Cloyster: UU to RU
    • Aggron: RU to NU
    • Dugtrio: RU to NU
    • Gastrodon: RU to NU
    • Gurdurr: RU to NU
    • Golbat: RU to NU
    • Trevenant: RU to NU
    • Smeargle: RU to NU
    • Torterra: NU to PU
    • Mawile: NU to PU
    • Pinsir: NU to PU
    Rises:
    • Zapdos: UU to OU
    • Amoonguss: RU to UU
    • Omastar: NU to RU
    • Floatzel: PU to NU
    Lets play some bingo ;)
  24. Drangonn.

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    YES AMOONGUSS LEAVES FUCK THAT SHROOM ASS THING
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  25. Tymano

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    Antar how much money would I need to give you to bribe you into keeping Zapdos UU for the rest of this gen?
    Last edited: May 4, 2016
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