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Data Smogon Usage-Based Tier Update: May 2016

Discussion in 'Smogon Metagames' started by Antar, May 9, 2016.

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  1. SotheBlacKnight

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    RU will likely lose Tangrowth but will likely get Shaymin. I'm a bit mixed, on the one hand as an offensive Grass type goes Shaymin is better and while not as bulky I can see it doing well with a defensive spread. It might fill Tangrowth's role while doing better in some offensive sets thanks to it's base 100 speed. But I can't deny that losing Tangrowth will be painful.
  2. EnemyJurist

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    So what do the stats mean for PU?

    | 56 | Togetic | 3.365% |
    cool, if it drops it goes straight through NU to PU, and its got a cool typing+defog+nasty plot/baton pass shenanigans.

    | 59 | Cacturne | 3.375% |
    oh boy. i could see a quickban. Cacturne is powerful. especially since it has multiple viable sets, like swords dance, life orb special, or mixed.

    | 60 | Rotom-Fan | 2.970% |
    could be nice, i guess ?.?

    | 62 | Muk | 2.614% |
    MY BODY IS READY

    choice band, assault vest, and curse sets could all be cool i guess, but i just want muk in PU.

    | 63 | Smeargle | 2.570% |
    eh, sticky web+spore i guess but Leavanny is faster and has offensive presence.

    | 66 | Pelipper | 2.399% |
    pls come back ;-; but then again, Machoke is probably leaving soon...

    | 58 | Zangoose | 3.435% |
    If this drops, I'm going to abuse the crap out of it for as long as I can (predicting one week maximum). Insane Poke.
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  3. Rennyjesus

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    I'm sorry dude... But there are a few things in here that aren't just right...

    PU will not get Togetic if it drops from RU... NU will get it and then if it drops again then PU can have it again...

    About Cacturne, while Powerful and with a STAB Sucker Punch, is not quickban worthwhile... Isn't bulky, nor fast and then, it has to rely on SPunch to deal damage against a lot of the meta, which of course can be just played around with things like sub - WoW - offensive shit with enough bulk... I dunno... It might be overwhelming in practice but in theory doesn't sound as bad...
    Finally about Zangoose... I feel that might one might be quickbanned as soon as stats go up, so... I doubt you could abuse it xD

    See ya!
  4. Punchshroom

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    Actually I am pretty sure that Togetic was in PU before RU snatched it away, so if Togetic drops from RU it'd return to the tier where it originally resided.
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  5. ericaroselia

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    Oh, so we are going to see Quagsire in NU soon?
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    Only if OU decides to drop Quag for good.
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  7. MaahirMomtaz12

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    Zangoose was already banned from PU though. It would just stay in NU
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  9. EnemyJurist

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    zangoose has never been pu, it has never been banned from pu
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  10. Swagodile

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    I can see Goodra and Alomomola being a good defensive core. Goodra has high Special Defense and resistant to both of Alomomola's weaknesses, while Alomomola can use its high HP and decent Defense to take physical hits for Goodra and patch up Goodra's lack of recovery with Wish.
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  12. Swagodile

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    Never said it was an unbreakable core.

    But yes, it will make Mega Glalie even better.
  13. Based Honker

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    It's still weak to the most common mega in the tier and of the most threatening mons in general. If it was weak to some obsecure mon then whatever but it doesn't work too well when it's weak to something so common.
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    | 87 | Moltres | 1.453% |
    | 88 | Escavalier | 1.390% |

    Makes sense
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  15. Khaytra

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    I was under the impression that the "return to the original tier it resided in" was only that one time for the ORAS megas that got yanked around for the lower tiers. Are we seriously going to send Quag all the way back down to NU if it falls out of OU?
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    Enough usage to be ou:
    | 41 | Zapdos | 5.322% |
    | 47 | Raikou | 4.467% |
    | 48 | Mew | 4.202% |

    Not enough usage to be ou:
    | 55 | Terrakion | 2.961% |
    | 63 | Latias-Mega | 2.184% |

    ou.... wyd...
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  17. Swagodile

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    Gallade went straight back to RU when it dropped from OU, and that was before Megas were separated from the base mons.
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  18. Zukrad

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    That was because Mega Gallade dropped to BL, if he had dropped to UU, Gallade would have been UU too
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    Yeah it was. It was in BL4 a few months ago
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    Unless freeze hax of course.

    Not to mention how sick Alomomola + Registeel is already, imagine when broken dragon #2 falls.

    Trying to be ready for Cloyster though. Honestly, from the possible drops to RU (Cloyster and below, possibly Machamp too), only Vaporeon and Shaymin seem not broken at all.
  22. EnemyJurist

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    i got confirmation from 2 pu room staff (anty and akir) that zangoose has never been pu or bl4
  23. MaroGod

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    http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...-update-may-2016.3571918/page-14#post-6885541

    Neither Zangoose or Pelipper are banned from PU so if they have the usage to drop then they will be PU not BL4 (Zangoose has not even entered the tier ever so i don't know where you would get the idea it is in BL4 to being with)

    Also, if Togetic was to drop from RU it would immediately drop back to PU as that was the tier Togetic was in before moving up
  24. MaahirMomtaz12

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    Well I'll be damned
  25. Rennyjesus

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    Can we get PU too please? Please? Pleaaaaseeeee?
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