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Terrakion (SubSD)

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  1. gookie

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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish and instead utilize Substitute; a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common lead Dialga and get a free Substitute against it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey, and defensive Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky Ghost-type Pokemon, such as physically defensive Giratina or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, which does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance does not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check Extreme Killer Arceus with a neutral Speed nature, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple: maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus, and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed-boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the mandatory item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, giving it an assured OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to get. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, and Slowbro is basically nonexistent, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage; therefore, Rock Gem is largely useless on this set.</p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant; however, Dialga is appreciated as a teammate to switch into the Giratina formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus make it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, and defensive Normal Arceus. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good check as well, as Psystrike OHKOes Terrakion and Terrakion can't OHKO back. Although rare, Gliscor stands up well against this set, but a boosted Stone Edge still hurts it. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice; Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>
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    Emphasize on Substitute's advantages over Rock Polish, particularly taking full advantage of his powerful coverage from STABs to make it very difficult for the opponent to find a safe switch in.

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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish, instead utilizing Substitute, a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common support Dialga and get a free substitute on it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey and Support Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky ghost Pokemon, such as a physically defensively EVed Giratina Forme or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, who does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats, (remove comma) due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance does not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, (add comma) nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check neutral natured Extreme Killer Arceus, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple, maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times, instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus, and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, giving it an assured OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to have. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, (add comma) and Slowbro is basically non-existent, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage, which means that Rock Gem is largely useless on this set. </p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant, however, Dialga is appreciated to switch into the Giratina Formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus makes it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, (add comma) and Wall Normal Arceus. Although rare, Gliscor is a good counter for this set, although a boosted Stone Edge still hurts. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice. (Period) Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good counter as well, as Psystrike cleanly OHKOes and Terrakion can't OHKO back. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>
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    Poppy please address gato's amateur check

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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish, and instead utilizeing Substitute, a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common lead Dialga and get a free substitute on it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey and Support Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky gGhost-type Pokemon, such as a physically defensively Giratina or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, which does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance doesn't not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check neutral natured Extreme Killer Arceus, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple, maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times, instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus, and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, giving it an assured OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to have. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, and Slowbro is are basically non-existent no dash, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage, which means that Rock Gem is largely useless on this set.</p> spaces before </p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant, however, Dialga is appreciated to appreciates switching into the Giratina Formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus make it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, and Wall Normal Arceus. Although rare, Gliscor is a good check for this set, but a boosted Stone Edge still hurts it. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice; Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good check as well, as Psystrike cleanly OHKOes and Terrakion can't OHKO back. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>

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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish, <remove comma> and instead utilize Substitute, a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common lead Dialga and get a free substitute on it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey, <add comma> and Support Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky Ghost-type Pokemon, such as a physically defensively Giratina or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, which does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance does not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check neutral natured Extreme Killer Arceus, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple, maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times, <remove comma> instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus, <add comma> and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, <remove comma> giving it an assured important OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to have. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, and Slowbro are basically nonexistent, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage, which means that Rock Gem is largely useless on this set. </p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant, however, Dialga is appreciated to switch into the Giratina Formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus make it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, and Wall Normal Arceus. Although rare, Gliscor is a good check for this set, but a boosted Stone Edge still hurts it. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice; Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good check as well, as Psystrike cleanly OHKOes and Terrakion can't OHKO back. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>
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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish,(remove comma) and instead utilize Substitute, a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common lead Dialga and get a free sSubstitute onagainst it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey,(comma) and Support Wall Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky Ghost-type Pokemon,(remove comma) such as a physically defensively Giratina or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, which does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance does not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check neutral natured Extreme Killer Arceus with a neutral speed nature, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple,: maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times,(remove comma) instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus,(remove comma) and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed -(hyphen)boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the mandatory item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, giving it an assured OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to haveget. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, and Slowbro is basically nonexistent, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage, which means that; therefore, Rock Gem is largely useless on this set. </p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant,; however, Dialga is appreciated to switch into the Giratina Formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus make it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, and Wall Normal Arceus. Although rare, Gliscor is a good check forto this set, but a boosted Stone Edge still hurts it. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice; Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good check as well, as Psystrike cleanly OHKOes andOHKOes Terrakion while Terrakion can't OHKO back. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>



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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish and instead utilize Substitute, a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common lead Dialga and get a free Substitute against it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey, and Wall Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky Ghost-type Pokemon such as physically defensive Giratina or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, which does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance does not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check Extreme Killer Arceus with a neutral speed nature, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple: maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed-boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the mandatory item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, giving it an assured OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to get. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, and Slowbro is basically nonexistent, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage; therefore, Rock Gem is largely useless on this set.</p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant; however, Dialga is appreciated to switch into the Giratina Formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus make it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, and Wall Normal Arceus. Although rare, Gliscor is a good check to this set, but a boosted Stone Edge still hurts it. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice; Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good check as well, as Psystrike OHKOes Terrakion while Terrakion can't OHKO back. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>



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    You are using life orb, so you can't make 4 subs, anyway, unless you don't attack, and even then you auto die from recoil after that, so wouldn't 4hp make more sense?
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    [SET]
    name: Substitute + Swords Dance
    move 1: Close Combat
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Swords Dance
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Terrakion can choose to forgo Rock Polish and instead utilize Substitute; a move that takes advantage of Pokemon that Terrakion can easily force out. This set can easily lead against the all-too-common lead Dialga and get a free Substitute against it; Ferrothorn, Chansey, Blissey, and defensive Normal Arceus can also be forced out. Without an exceptionally bulky Ghost-type Pokemon, such as physically defensive Giratina or Ghost Arceus, your opponent's team is in for a world of pain if Terrakion gets a Substitute up. The standard mixed Giratina-O, which does not invest in bulk, is 2HKOed by an unboosted Stone Edge after Stealth Rock. Even Groudon does not particularly like switching into repeated Close Combats due to its lack of reliable recovery. Substitute not only eases prediction, but also protects Terrakion from the status that it loathes. Stone Edge and Close Combat are the obligatory STAB moves, providing unresisted coverage on everything commonly used in Ubers. Swords Dance does not often find time to be used, as the sheer power of Terrakion's offensive STABs make it unnecessary for the most part. However, if Terrakion can get behind a Substitute and get a Swords Dance up, nothing can take two hits from it. This set can still check Extreme Killer Arceus with a neutral Speed nature, but will fall to a Jolly one using Earthquake.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are simple: maximizing its Attack and Speed are the only things Terrakion should focus on. The 4 Defense EVs are used so Terrakion can use Substitute four times instead of three. Do not be tempted to use an Adamant nature, as Terrakion is almost always used to check Extreme Killer Arceus, and cannot hope to do so unless it runs a Speed-boosting nature.</p>

    <p>Life Orb is the mandatory item for this set, as it provides the much needed boosts to Terrakion's attacks, giving it an assured OHKO on Normal Arceus who invest in HP, a very important KO to get. Unlike in OU, the use of Pokemon such as Tangrowth, Gliscor, and Slowbro is basically nonexistent, with only Gliscor being viable and seeing any sort of decent usage; therefore, Rock Gem is largely useless on this set.</p>

    <p>This set is fairly self-reliant; however, Dialga is appreciated as a teammate to switch into the Giratina formes after Terrakion's Substitute has been broken. Dialga can also set up Stealth Rock to further help with Terrakion's wallbreaking abilities. Ghost Arceus can be dealt with by Darkrai, as its super effective Dark-type STAB and ability to outpace and use Dark Void on Ghost Arceus make it a superb check. Groudon can be handled by Pokemon such as Lugia, Skarmory, Giratina, and defensive Normal Arceus. A support Mewtwo with Psystrike and enough Speed EVs to outspeed Terrakion is a good check as well, as Psystrike OHKOes Terrakion and Terrakion can't OHKO back. Although rare, Gliscor stands up well against this set, but a boosted Stone Edge still hurts it. Gliscor can be dealt with by Bronzong or Forretress with Hidden Power Ice; Manaphy with rain support is also an excellent counter. This set has a tendency to maim bulky Ghost-types, making Extreme Killer Arceus and Rock Polish + Swords Dance Groudon good partners.</p>


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