The Counter Game

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chip_the_fox

Umbrelava said:
Quagsire @ Leftovers
Quiet
Water Absorb
252 HP, 168 Sp. Atk, 88 Atk
Substitute
Focus Punch
HP Ground
Ice Beam

Boahsire FTW!
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hmmm heres a semi weird one heres a fighting weak poke named:
Umbreon (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 132 HP/136 Atk/176 Def/66 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Payback
- Curse
- toxic
- moonlight
1 punch does 45.60% - 53.85% on the switch
2nd does 30.77% - 36.26% when i curse (negative priority a bitch :) )
ice beam does 11.81% - 13.74% btw
which means ill be left with no less than 8% health when i moonlight on the 3rd turn leaving me with no less than 64% (barring crits)

here i can curse heal or just straight out attack
 

BrazilianDragonite

chip_the_fox said:
hmmm heres a semi weird one heres a fighting weak poke named:
Umbreon (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 132 HP/136 Atk/176 Def/66 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Payback
- Curse
- toxic
- moonlight
1 punch does 45.60% - 53.85% on the switch
2nd does 30.77% - 36.26% when i curse (negative priority a bitch :) )
ice beam does 11.81% - 13.74% btw
which means ill be left with no less than 8% health when i moonlight on the 3rd turn leaving me with no less than 64% (barring crits)

here i can curse heal or just straight out attack
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Lucario is too obvious for that,so i'll go with:
Bastiodon@Focus Sash
252hp/252 sp.def
Adamant
Curse
Taunt
Metal Burst
Iron Head
 

Emu

Bastiodon,

Primeape @ Life Orb
Adamant, Vital Spirit
4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Bulk Up
-Scratch

Haha. Scratch negates Sash, and Close Combat is 4x effective.
 

chip_the_fox

Emu said:
Bastiodon,

Primeape @ Life Orb
Adamant, Vital Spirit
4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Bulk Up
-Scratch

Haha. Scratch negates Sash, and Close Combat is 4x effective.
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lol scratch :)

claydol @ leftovers
bold 252 HP / 114 Def / 144 Speed
calm mind
earth power
ice beam
psychic
 
the pugilist

the pugilist

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Junior said:
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Def
~ Earthquake
~ Aerial Ace
~ Roost
~ Swords Dance
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Gyrados @ leftovers
Adamant
Evs: 252 HP/ 16 atk/ 180 Def/ 100 Spe

Waterfall
Ice Fang
Taunt
DD

Immune to EQ, Taunts it and then Ice Fangs it to death.
 

eric the espeon

maybe I just misunderstood
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yea sheddy is banned. maybe someone should get choop to edit some more rulz into the first post, like

1. no sheddy
2. no ubers

what do people think about focus sash, explotion, OHKO moves, evation increceing moves? maybe even blissey? all those are considord cheep by some people in this game, or banned from standerd play.

and what % chance of wining does the counter have to have? 50%? a bit low, many pokes could come in and hit with inacurate oves/brighpower + sub hax or stuff. 70%? sounds good to me, maybe a bit too low still, i like 75% or 80%. 100%? well most moves do not have 100% acricy so a pokemon would have to have all 100% moves.
 

Maroon3d

Melon said:
Shedinja is banned from this game.
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eric the espeon said:
yea sheddy is banned. maybe someone should get choop to edit some more rulz into the first post, like

1. no sheddy
2. no ubers

what do people think about focus sash, explotion, OHKO moves, evation increceing moves? maybe even blissey? all those are considord cheep by some people in this game, or banned from standerd play.

and what % chance of wining does the counter have to have? 50%? a bit low, many pokes could come in and hit with inacurate oves/brighpower + sub hax or stuff. 70%? sounds good to me, maybe a bit too low still, i like 75% or 80%. 100%? well most moves do not have 100% acricy so a pokemon would have to have all 100% moves.
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Err, no-where on the first post it says anything about sheddy being banned.
 

Draco Meteor

I don't really see why anything should be banned from this game. I thought the point of it was to be creative.

Maroon3d said:
Shedninja @ Focus Sash
Adamant
252 attack/Speed

Swords Dance
X-Scizzor
Wil-o-wisp
Protect (To burn stall)
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Heatran @ Leftovers
244 HP / 136 SpA / 128 Spdef
- Lava Plume
- Substitute
- Earthpower
- Hidden Power (Ice)
 

Dark Android

To the Heatran:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold@ 148/0/240/120/0/0
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Toxic

Comes in on any of Heatran's moves with little harm done to it, and even if it critted, I could still Recover in time. Can 2KO Heatran with STAB Surf.
 

Draco Meteor

Dark Android said:
To the Heatran:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold@ 148/0/240/120/0/0
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Toxic

Comes in on any of Heatran's moves with little harm done to it, and even if it critted, I could still Recover in time. Can 2KO Heatran with STAB Surf.
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Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Clear Body
Calm
240 HP / 96 SpA / 172 SpD
- Acupressure
- Toxic
- Substitute
- Hidden Power (Ground)
 

Maroon3d

Draco Meteor said:
Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Clear Body
Calm
240 HP / 96 SpA / 172 SpD
- Acupressure
- Toxic
- Substitute
- Hidden Power (Ground)
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Thats not a real counter because...

1. You can't recover health
2. No attacks.
3. You boost milotics def with Toxic.


And a counter to Tenta

Alakazam @ Focus Sash
Modest
252 Special Attack/Speed

Calm Mind
Physchic
Focus Blast
Grass Not
 

Draco Meteor

Maroon3d said:
Thats not a real counter because...

1. You can't recover health
2. No attacks.
3. You boost milotics def with Toxic.


And a counter to Tenta

Alakazam @ Focus Sash
Modest
252 Special Attack/Speed

Calm Mind
Physchic
Focus Blast
Grass Not
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But Milotic can't do anything back to me, while I up my own stats behind a sub with acupressure and eventually falls due to toxic.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Timid
252 HP / 176 Spatk / 80 Spdef
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
 

eric the espeon

maybe I just misunderstood
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I don't really see why anything should be banned from this game. I thought the point of it was to be creative.
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sheddy forces all pokemon to carry a move to hit it with, this limits creativity. also you can't say sheddy lends itsself to new creative sets.

also reposting this to promote discution.

someone should ask choop to edit this into the first post.
1. no sheddy
2. no ubers

what do people think about focus sash, explotion, OHKO moves, evation increceing moves? maybe even blissey? all those are considord cheap by some people in this game, or banned from standerd play.
i think OHKO moves, and evation + moves should be banned, but the others are fine.

and what % chance of wining does the counter have to have? 50%? a bit low, many pokes could come in and hit with inacurate moves/brighpower + sub hax or stuff. 70%? sounds good to me, maybe a bit too low still, i like 75% or 80%. 100%? well most moves do not have 100% acricy so a pokemon would have to have all 100% moves. if its 100% then what beats draco metior C specs kingdra? it can 1KO bliss with a crit, so bliss is not a total counter.
 

1059860

Weezing @ Leftovers
Calm @ 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 SpA
~ Shadow Ball
~ Pain Split
~ Hidden Power Ground
~ Sludge Bomb

Hidden Power Ground does it.
 
nardd

nardd

Have you ever tried switching that weezing into a modest heatran's STAB overheat?

@heatran

dragonite@lefties
252hp 252spdef 6att
-earth % Cbr>-outrage
-sub
-fireblast
 
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