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The Counter Game
- Thread starter choop
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Sorry, but could you write this out again, I can't tell what the four moves are.
im pretty sure its
dragonite@leftovers
252hp/252sp.def
earth power
outrage
sub
fire blast
reposting this to promote discution, come on people reply.
someone should ask choop to edit this into the first post.
1. no sheddy
2. no ubers
what do people think about focus sash, explotion, OHKO moves, evation increceing moves? maybe even blissey? all those are considord cheap by some people in this game, or banned from standerd play.
i think OHKO moves, and evation + moves should be banned, but the others are fine.
and what % chance of wining does the counter have to have? 50%? a bit low, many pokes could come in and hit with inacurate moves/brighpower + sub hax or stuff. 70%? sounds good to me, maybe a bit too low still, i like 75% or 80%. 100%? well most moves do not have 100% acricy so a pokemon would have to have all 100% moves. if its 100% then what beats draco metior C specs kingdra? it can 1KO bliss with a crit, so bliss is not a total counter.
dragonite@leftovers
252hp/252sp.def
earth power
outrage
sub
fire blast
reposting this to promote discution, come on people reply.
someone should ask choop to edit this into the first post.
1. no sheddy
2. no ubers
what do people think about focus sash, explotion, OHKO moves, evation increceing moves? maybe even blissey? all those are considord cheap by some people in this game, or banned from standerd play.
i think OHKO moves, and evation + moves should be banned, but the others are fine.
and what % chance of wining does the counter have to have? 50%? a bit low, many pokes could come in and hit with inacurate moves/brighpower + sub hax or stuff. 70%? sounds good to me, maybe a bit too low still, i like 75% or 80%. 100%? well most moves do not have 100% acricy so a pokemon would have to have all 100% moves. if its 100% then what beats draco metior C specs kingdra? it can 1KO bliss with a crit, so bliss is not a total counter.
right my mistake
Gengar@LO
Hasty 136 Atk/120 SpA/252 Spe
- Taunt
- Explosion
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
Steelix @ Leftovers
Rock Head
Quiet
200 Hp/128 Atk/128 SpAtk/56 SpDef
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Explosion
Hidden Power [Fire]
Rock Head
Quiet
200 Hp/128 Atk/128 SpAtk/56 SpDef
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Explosion
Hidden Power [Fire]
Solrock,
Pinsir @ Choice Band
Mold Breaker
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
X-Scissor
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Close Combat
Overheat does 72~, X Scissor/EQ for the OHKO.
Pinsir @ Choice Band
Mold Breaker
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
X-Scissor
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Close Combat
Overheat does 72~, X Scissor/EQ for the OHKO.
Gligar@Leftovers
Impish 252 Def/252 HP/6 HP
- Aerial Ace
- EQ
- Roost
- Knock Off
Machop @ Choice Band
Adamant @ 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 SDef
~ Dynamic Punch
~ Stone Edge
~ Mach Punch
~ Ice Punch
Staryu@Persim Berry
Timid 240 HP/252 SpA/36 Spe
- Psychic
- Recover
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
Blissey@Leftovers
Bold 252 HP/252 Def
- Softboiled
- Ice Beam
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
Back to BL/OU.
Honchkrow@Leftovers
Insomia
Adamant 252 Attack/252 Speed
- Drill Peck
- Toxic
- Steel Wing
- Pursuit
@Magnezone
Marshstomp @ Leftovers
Torrent
Sassy
252 SpDef/252 Hp/4 SpAtk
Rest
Hydro Pump
Waterfall
Surf
Marshstomp @ Leftovers
Torrent
Sassy
252 SpDef/252 Hp/4 SpAtk
Rest
Hydro Pump
Waterfall
Surf
At Articuno,
Lanturn - Leftovers
Ability - Volt Absorb
Nature - Modest
EVs, HP-204, Defense-152, Sp.Atk-152.
Moves,
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Bolt
- Surf
All of those attacks do diddly squat, T-waves, then T.Bolts to death.
EDIT: Oh snap, too slow.
Lanturn - Leftovers
Ability - Volt Absorb
Nature - Modest
EVs, HP-204, Defense-152, Sp.Atk-152.
Moves,
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Bolt
- Surf
All of those attacks do diddly squat, T-waves, then T.Bolts to death.
EDIT: Oh snap, too slow.
@Whooper
Surskit @ Choice Specs
Swift Swim
Modest
252 Spatk/252 Spd/4 Hp
Hydro Pump
Shadow Ball
Giga Drain
Ice Beam
Surskit @ Choice Specs
Swift Swim
Modest
252 Spatk/252 Spd/4 Hp
Hydro Pump
Shadow Ball
Giga Drain
Ice Beam
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