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Those Weird Pokémon
- Thread starter Basics
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Instead of thinking of it as "Pokes you don't know how to use", I think of it the other way around. There are a bunch of about 20 Pokes that I've used in the past whose strenghts and weaknesses I know intimatly, and hence it's easier to build a team with those guys then a bunch of randoms.
When building a team I try to restrict myself to only one unfamiliar Poke. Trying to learn how to use multiple at the same time - however effective they might seem on paper - just doesn't work.
When building a team I try to restrict myself to only one unfamiliar Poke. Trying to learn how to use multiple at the same time - however effective they might seem on paper - just doesn't work.
Team building process:
-Take a look at smogon battle stats
-Go down the list and find the 6 highest ranked sweepers
-Take out Gengar because he's as frail as a wet paper bag
-Find the 7th highest ranked sweeper
-Put the 6 highest ranked sweepers except gengar on a team
xD just kidding
edit: sort of
-Take a look at smogon battle stats
-Go down the list and find the 6 highest ranked sweepers
-Take out Gengar because he's as frail as a wet paper bag
-Find the 7th highest ranked sweeper
-Put the 6 highest ranked sweepers except gengar on a team
xD just kidding
edit: sort of
LO gengar.it sucks ass. ppls said hes a monster etc etc but whenever i use him i rarely kill more than 1 opponent it just doesnt have enough power to OHKO stuff and it feels so slow.The only gengar that worked for me is scarfgar
There are quite a few I find it difficult to use well... I have problems with Heatran, Skarmory, Celebi, Lucario, Gengar and Garchomp to name a few... Having said that, I manage well enough with Dusknoir, Hippowdon etc, which others have said they have trouble with, so I can feel good about myself to an extent :P
I think the fact that I can predict when to use pain split contributes greatly to me being somewhat decent with Dusknoir... I run a rather strange moveset comprising of Shadow Punch, Shadow Sneak, Will-o-wisp and Pain Split, but even with just residual from W-o-w and mono-attacking, it ususally gets around 1-2 KOs per match purely from pain split...
I think the fact that I can predict when to use pain split contributes greatly to me being somewhat decent with Dusknoir... I run a rather strange moveset comprising of Shadow Punch, Shadow Sneak, Will-o-wisp and Pain Split, but even with just residual from W-o-w and mono-attacking, it ususally gets around 1-2 KOs per match purely from pain split...
Good thread idea, Basics, it really got me thinking.
CBTyranitar is a Pokemon that I've never been able to use effectively. In theory it's simple to use but I always seem to be walled instantly, and then I find it difficult to switch him back in because of that horrible set of weaknesses and low speed. It's odd because I normally love CB'ers but I lean towards fast, frail ones like Weavile rather than slow, bulky ones like Tyranitar. I also find that everytime I use Boah, I end up wishing I had opted for different coverage...I just cant find those optimal two attacks to go with Sub/Punch. DDTar, on the other hand, is the sole reason I was eligible to participate in the recent Garchomp vote...I'd been out of the metagame for a long time and I was struggling to adapt but DDTar really came through for me. I guess Tyranitar is really hit-or-miss for me.
CBTyranitar is a Pokemon that I've never been able to use effectively. In theory it's simple to use but I always seem to be walled instantly, and then I find it difficult to switch him back in because of that horrible set of weaknesses and low speed. It's odd because I normally love CB'ers but I lean towards fast, frail ones like Weavile rather than slow, bulky ones like Tyranitar. I also find that everytime I use Boah, I end up wishing I had opted for different coverage...I just cant find those optimal two attacks to go with Sub/Punch. DDTar, on the other hand, is the sole reason I was eligible to participate in the recent Garchomp vote...I'd been out of the metagame for a long time and I was struggling to adapt but DDTar really came through for me. I guess Tyranitar is really hit-or-miss for me.
In OU i just cant use the dragons, which may esplain my mediocre standard play. the dual ice weakness just kills me.
which is wierd cos i love using jumpluff and gliscor.....perhaps i just overestimate what tghe dragons can do?
In UU i cant use hypno or grumpig. seems to me they're too slow and have much to unreliable healing to get much done. another bothersome pokemon is claydol, who i struggle using, and struggle even more to work around...
which is wierd cos i love using jumpluff and gliscor.....perhaps i just overestimate what tghe dragons can do?
In UU i cant use hypno or grumpig. seems to me they're too slow and have much to unreliable healing to get much done. another bothersome pokemon is claydol, who i struggle using, and struggle even more to work around...
Eh, there isn't much in OU that I can't work marginally well. Heracross is something that I've never really seen the point of, I've never been swept by one in D/P and fail horribly when I use it. Of course, I almost always run a Weezing, especially now that Garchomp is gone. I'm also pretty worthless with a Dragonite. I also never used Infernape well, too frail for my tastes.
I use Swampert, Weezing, and Celebi a ton though, almost every team. Heatran and Zapdos are also among my favorites. I like a bit of bulk in my team.
I use Swampert, Weezing, and Celebi a ton though, almost every team. Heatran and Zapdos are also among my favorites. I like a bit of bulk in my team.
For some reason I can never use blissey like I should be able to... Maybe I just never heal when I need to or something, but I know how you feel basics. It's like you know this pokemon is good, but it just never works when you try to use it.
Same with breloom, though I don't even try him much.
Same with breloom, though I don't even try him much.
I never could run spiritomb, celebi, infernape, luke (Way too slow, I don't know how people use him), Blissey, vaporeon, deoxys-speed, Gyarados, and Bronzong(he always get killed as a lead or otherwise)
however azelf, gengar, swampert, magnezone, scizor, zapdos, metagross, and suicune always worked great for me XD. I'm guess i only like phazing and offensive tanks rather than walls.
however azelf, gengar, swampert, magnezone, scizor, zapdos, metagross, and suicune always worked great for me XD. I'm guess i only like phazing and offensive tanks rather than walls.
It really isn't that hard to change your style of play, everyone has done it with the changing of the metagames. If you know basic pokemon, you should be able to see were the pokemon will fit in on your team. Sure, it takes a couple battles, but all teams take a couple battles to work well together. At least for me they do.
Baton Pass teams and Stall teams in general. I get too greedy on BP teams, and too sacrifice-happy on stall teams.
SubCM Raikou never works out well either, which is a shame given how awesome he is.
Also can't use things with unaacurate moves, missing just throws me off.
I love using slow and bulky CBers like Tar and Azumarill, but frail and fast ones like Weavile fail in my hands.
woah, I can't believe there are people that can't work stuff like TechniTop/YacheChomp.
SubCM Raikou never works out well either, which is a shame given how awesome he is.
Also can't use things with unaacurate moves, missing just throws me off.
I love using slow and bulky CBers like Tar and Azumarill, but frail and fast ones like Weavile fail in my hands.
woah, I can't believe there are people that can't work stuff like TechniTop/YacheChomp.
For some reason I always have problems using SD Lucario, even with speed Baton passed into it! Instead, I find Specsluke much easier to use, so I think I'll almost use Lucario as a special attacker from now on.
I also tend to get too greedy on Curses with Snorlax. Oh well...
I also tend to get too greedy on Curses with Snorlax. Oh well...
If you're referring to me, then I meant that it's one of those Pokemon who I did use effectively since the start.
lol, I have the same problem with stat-boosting in general. It's either that or I don't buff enough. I can't find the right balance.
I also fail at pretty much anything with a Choice item. Feel free to laugh at me for that one. Only ones I seem to be able to pull were R/S Slaking (Emerald spammed Protect like a jerk) and a Scarf Wailord (fast Water Spouts are fun. Things surviving and retaliating isn't).
EDIT: In response to Sixonesix, I can't figure out ANY physical Lucario. I tried an EndRev one (Adamant + Salac), got one kill, oh hi Jolteon, QA AARRRGGG dead. I don't even see the popularity, its Sp.Atk is higher. Yet somehow, my special Lucario (it's in my thread) seems to fail too.
Spiritomb / Dusknoir never work for me...
But on the other hand Machamp / Tyranitar / Blissey / Cresselia work wonders.
But on the other hand Machamp / Tyranitar / Blissey / Cresselia work wonders.