Toxicroak (Toxic Stall)

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It is also worth noting that the combo of Toxic + Drain Punch + Bulk Up is walled only by a handful of Pokemon viable in OU, those being Skarmory, Starmie, Xatu, Celebi with Psychic or Perish Song, Espeon, Gengar, Reuniclus, and Gliscor.
I think Jolteon deserves a mention as a partner since it can hit most of those Pokemon super effectively or hard with a Thunder.
 

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Ok Pocket i think that now i described everything that Protect does.

Also, i seperated the paragraphs as you suggested, thx Glacier!
 

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Choice Scarf Gothitelle is another trapper that works well alongside Toxicroak and deals with every Pokemon that troubles its partner.
I wouldn't narrow it down to Scarf Gothitelle, since Specs Gothitelle is arguably better for removing Jellicent.

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[SET]
name: Toxic Stall
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Protect / Substitute
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Bulk Up / Ice Punch
item: Black Sludge
ability: Dry Skin
nature: Impish
evs: 244 HP / 252 Def / 12 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set takes a more stalling approach and makes use of Toxicroak's superb defensive typing, (AC) which allows it to counter some of the most threatening Pokemon in OU, Keldeo and Tyranitar, the extra healing provided by Dry Skin under rain, and Toxicroak's ability to lure and cripple most of its counters with Toxic. For example, Hippowdon, Landorus-T, Jellicent, and Sableye, common checks or counters to the other sets, all despise Toxic and can easily get Toxic stalled to death with the use of Protect or Substitute. This set also helps significantly rain teams to win the war of attrition against Hippowdon, which otherwise is quite a pain to take down.</p>

<p>Protect works well with Dry Skin and Toxic, enhancing Toxicroak's ability to stall for Toxic damage and heal, allowing Toxicroak to heal big amounts of health life under rain, (RC) and gives it the ability to scout for Choice-locked attacks. Substitute works better against slower opponents and prevents status from the likes of Jellicent, Rotom-W, and Amoonguss, enabling Toxicroak to beat them one-on-one. Substitute also eases prediction and ensures makes sure that Toxicroak will hit the incoming Pokemon with the right move. Drain Punch hits many Pokemon that are immune to Toxic, such as Ferrothorn, Heatran, and Magnezone, hard and provides Toxicroak with another way to keep itself healthy. Bulk Up lets Toxicroak defeat some of its counters, namely Tentacruel, specially defensive Jirachi, Venusaur in rain, and Skarmory in a last Pokemon situation, while also making Toxicroak a bigger threat in the long term. It is also worth noting that the combo of Toxic + Drain Punch + Bulk Up is walled by few only by a handful of Pokemon viable in OU, those being Skarmory, Starmie, Xatu, Celebi with Psychic or Perish Song, Espeon, Gengar, Reuniclus, and Gliscor. Only a handful of these are commonly seen, making it a great combination. On the other hand, Ice Punch scores super effective hits on some Pokemon that check or counter Toxicroak, such as Gliscor, Landorus-T, Landorus, Garchomp, and Dragonite, making sure that Toxicroak won't become setup bait for any of those Pokemon; for example, Toxic does nothing to Dragon Dance Dragonite with Lum Berry and doesn't KO Sheer Force Landorus and or Swords Dance Garchomp quickly enough to prevent them from doing serious damage to Toxicroak's team.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>12 Speed EVs are used to outspeed Rotom-W What kind? and set up a Substitute before Rotom-W statuses Toxicroak or to hit it for some decent damage with Drain Punch. The rest of the EVs go into HP and Defense to allow Toxicroak to hard counter Keldeo and Terrakion. Sucker Punch is an option on the last slot if Toxicroak's team is desperately in need of priority, but Bulk Up and Ice Punch provide more utility overall.</p>

<p>Politoed is a necessary teammate in order to allow Toxicroak to stall properly. While hard counters to this set are few, they all wall Toxicroak completely hard and make it a liability, so teammates to deal with those Pokemon are important to have. Weavile deals with Gengar, Celebi, Starmie, Xatu, Epseon, and Reuniclus to an extent, trapping them with Pursuit or hitting them hard if they stay in. Choice Scarf Scizor can trap some of those Pokemon too with Pursuit and can switch into most of them easily, while getting his its Fire weakness halved in rain. Finally, Gothitelle is another trapper that works well alongside Toxicroak and deals with every Pokemon that troubles its his All trapping goths are male, surprisingly partner. Choice Scarf Gothitelle is the best set for this job. especially the Choice Scarf variant.</p>


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<p>12 Speed EVs are used to outspeed uninvested Rotom-W and set up a Substitute before Rotom-W statuses Toxicroak or to hit it for some decent damage with Drain Punch.
I always get speed ties with Rotom-W uninvested because they always keep there remaining 4 EVs in Speed sometimes. I think 16 EVs is better. 4 EVs doesn't make a difference to it's defenses anyways.
 
#33
[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set takes a more stalling approach and makes use of Toxicroak's superb defensive typing, which allows it to counter some of the most threatening Pokemon in OU, Keldeo and Tyranitar, the extra healing provided by Dry Skin under rain, and Toxicroak's ability to lure and cripple most of its counters with Toxic. For example, Hippowdon, Landorus-T, Jellicent, and Sableye, common checks or counters to the other sets, all despise Toxic and can easily get Toxic stalled to death with the use of Protect or Substitute. This set also significantly helps rain teams to win the war of attrition against Hippowdon, which otherwise is quite a pain to take down.</p>

re first sentence of previous paragraph: while it's not strictly speaking grammatically incorrect, too many comma-separated clauses make the first part kinda hard to follow imo (it's hard to tell when you suddenly jump back to talking about 'things this set makes use of'). I would break it up to give something like "This set takes a more stalling approach and makes use of several of Toxicroak's unique traits. Firstly, its superb defensive typing allows it to counter some of the most threatening Pokemon in OU, namely Keldeo and Tyranitar; second, Dry Skin provides it with extra healing under rain; and third, it can lure and cripple most of its counters with Toxic."

<p>Protect works well with Dry Skin and Toxic; it enhances Toxicroak's ability to stall for Toxic damage and heal, allows Toxicroak to heal big amounts of health under rain,(comma) and gives it the ability to scout for Choice-locked attacks. Substitute works better against slower opponents and prevents status from the likes of Jellicent, Rotom-W, and Amoonguss, enabling Toxicroak to beat them one-on-one. Substitute also eases prediction and ensures that Toxicroak will hit the incoming Pokemon with the right move. Drain Punch hits many Pokemon that are immune to Toxic—such as Ferrothorn, Heatran, and Magnezone—hard, and provides Toxicroak with another way to keep itself healthy. Bulk Up lets Toxicroak defeat some of its counters, namely Tentacruel, specially defensive Jirachi, Venusaur in rain, and Skarmory in a last-Pokemon situation, while also making Toxicroak a bigger threat in the long term. It is also worth noting that the combo of Toxic + Drain Punch + Bulk Up is a great combination as it is walled only by a few Pokemon viable in OU, those being Skarmory, Starmie, Xatu, Celebi with Psychic or Perish Song, Espeon, Gengar, Reuniclus, and Gliscor, while and of these, only a handful of these are commonly seen, making it a great combination watch out that some of your clauses are too far away from what they're describing - it would be much easier to follow if you shifted them around :3. On the other hand, Ice Punch scores super effective hits on some Pokemon that check or counter Toxicroak, such as Gliscor, Landorus-T, Landorus, Garchomp, and Dragonite, making sure that Toxicroak won't become setup bait for any of those Pokemon.(period) For example, Toxic does nothing to Dragon Dance Dragonite with Lum Berry and doesn't KO Sheer Force Landorus or Swords Dance Garchomp quickly enough to prevent them from doing serious damage to Toxicroak's team.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>12 Speed EVs are used to outspeed uninvested Rotom-W and set up a Substitute before Rotom-W statuses Toxicroak,(comma) or to hit it for some decent damage with Drain Punch. The rest of the EVs go into HP and Defense to allow Toxicroak to hard-counter Keldeo and Terrakion. Sucker Punch is an option on the last slot if Toxicroak's team is desperately in need of priority, but Bulk Up and Ice Punch provide more utility overall.</p>

<p>Politoed is a necessary teammate in order to allow Toxicroak to stall properly. While hard counters to this set are few, they all wall Toxicroak completely and make it a liability, so teammates to deal with those Pokemon are important to have. Weavile deals with Gengar, Celebi, Starmie, Xatu, Espeon, and Reuniclus to an extent, trapping them with Pursuit or hitting them hard if they stay in. Choice Scarf Scizor can trap some of those Pokemon too and can switch into most of them easily, while getting its Fire weakness halved in rain. Finally, Gothitelle is another trapper that works well alongside Toxicroak and deals with every Pokemon that troubles his partner; Choice Scarf Gothitelle is the best set for this job, as it decide whether or not you want to refer to goth as 'he' or 'it' and fix either this or the preceding "his" accordingly can outspeed and KO even Gengar.</p>
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#34
I always get speed ties with Rotom-W uninvested because they always keep there remaining 4 EVs in Speed sometimes. I think 16 EVs is better. 4 EVs doesn't make a difference to it's defenses anyways.
This is speed creep, which we don't do in analyses.

Thx sirndpt, very useful check! This is done!