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Victim of the Week: Week 4 Sigilyph

Discussion in 'BW RU' started by Yonko7, Jun 22, 2013.

  1. Psylink


    Sep 9, 2012
    are we covering all sets, cosmic cheap, cm, or the lo attacker set?

    edit: omg wrong pokemon, I thought sigy was the thing to counter lol

    edit 2: wait, no, i'm confused now, what is it that we're covering currently?
  2. Molk

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    Jul 27, 2011
    Sigilyph is the Pokemon we're covering in victim of the week at the moment, all sets should be covered, although you can mention some checks and counters that only beat specific sets as long as you make that clear.

    Alright, to start off this discussion, i'm going to cover a few ways to cover Cosmic Power Sigilyph, the absolute bane of most new players. Despite the fact that it often gives new players trouble, i don't really ever have that much trouble with it (i actually find it to be the worst sig set lol), it might seem imposing at first but there are multiple good ways to keep it in check, some of which i'll be listing below to try and help out any new players viewing this thread.

    Dark-types with recovery of any form, such as Spiritomb and Mandibuzz: Since Cosmic Power Sigilyph relies on Stored Power to deal damage, leaving it completely vulnerable against Dark-types bar a Psycho Shift Burn, Pokemon such as Restalk Spiritomb and Mandibuzz are able to handle Sigilyph rather reliably. Not being able to be hurt by Stored Power, being able to recover off the damage from burns, and in the case of Mandibuzz being able to use a combination of Taunt and Whirlwind to phaze and completely shut down Sigilyph for the time being. These Pokemon are probably some of the best/most reliable ways to deal with Cosmic Power Sigilyph (they perform well against other sets too).

    Trick: Although it means getting handed a Flame Orb in return, Trick is one of the easiest and most effective ways of crippling Cosmic Power Sigilyph for the rest of the match imo, and its usually my go to method if i can't fit something like Restalk Spiritomb on my team. Sigilyph takes a really long time to boost up enough for Stored Power to do some serious damage because of its incredibly low 20 Base Power early on, meaning a Sigilyph without any boosts isn't much of a threat at all, especially when its locked into a move and can't set up at all in the future, let alone spread burns or use Roost to recover. A tricked Cosmic Power Sigilyph is pretty much dead weight for the rest of the match. Pokemon such as Manectric, Rotom-C, and Rotom-N make good users of Trick, and have a STAB super effective Volt Switch to boot!

    Haze Cryogonal: Haze Cryogonal is a reliable and effective way to deal with Cosmic Power Sigilyph on more defensive teams. As mentioned previously in the Trick section, Sigilyph takes quite a bit of set up to become a huge threat, as its Stored Power is incredibly weak beforehand. Cryogonal takes perfect advantage of this and uses a combination of its recovery, special bulk, and haze to just completely wall CP Sigilyph. Its really hard if not impossible for Sigilyph to PP stall Cryogonal as well, because Haze has an absolutely massive amount of PP to work with (Cryogonal can haze more than Sigilyph can set up Cosmic Power lol).
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2013
  3. EonX

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    May 27, 2011
    @Psylink, we're basically supposed to talk about Sigilyph as a whole and how we attempt to deal with it in battle.

    As for me, despite the fact that cp is its worst set, it's the one I anticipate most on the ladder. That being said though, the actually good sets (LO Attacker, CM, and CM+Flame Orb) are pretty threatening in different respects. There are, however, some Pokemon that can handle Sigi quite nicely on most occasions:

    Mesprit: This is probably the best offensive response to Sigilyph in the tier. Mesprit sports a resistance to Psychic-type moves and lacks a weakness to any of Sigilyph's coverage moves. Mesprit then has Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, and ThunderPunch at its disposal to remove Sigilyph depending on the set the pixie uses. Perhaps the set best equipped to deal with Sigilyph is Mesprit's SubCM set. It can boost alongside Sigilyph and eventually break through with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam while Mesprit has Sub to block Psycho Shift from the CM+Flame Orb set.

    Entei: Entei is a bit shakier as a check, but it doesn't possess any weaknesses to Sigilyph's moves and has enough bulk to handle a hit or two from Sigilyph. The CM+Flame Orb set has serious problems with Entei due to it being immune to burns. From there, Entei can use Stone Edge or Flare Blitz to overwhelm Sigilyph, but do keep in mind that Sigilyph will outspeed Entei, thus allowing it to possibly stall out Stone Edge PP and wait for Entei to kill itself with Flare Blitz recoil.

    Spiritomb: If Psycho Shift+Flame Orb isn't involved, Spiritomb is the answer to Sigilyph. Sporting solid bulk, a Psychic-type immunity, and deadly STAB moves in Sucker Punch and Pursuit, Spiritomb is a major obstacle for Sigilyph to overcome. Again, Spiritomb is hurt the most out of these 3 checks by a burn since it's primarily a physical attacker, so caution should be taken to ensure it isn't the CM+Flame Orb or Cosmic Power sets before you send in Spiritomb.

    There's probably more, but I'll leave those to everyone else to bring up.
  4. Psylink


    Sep 9, 2012
    @EonX- I was wondering who was being talked about, not how :)

    I'll edit this later with my ideas.

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