Aragorn the King you wanted checks to Greninja and Kyu-B... here are some options !
HP Fire Greninja Check
Kyurem-Black @ Leftovers
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 108 SDef / 148 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Fusion Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Claw
- Roost
At one point I will stop ripping sets from Alexwolf but they're always so good... This Kyu-B has the bulk to only be 3HKOd at best by Greninja and respond w/ a Dragon Claw for upwards of 85% damage. It's a strong utility check to a lot of mons, namely (Mega) Gyarados / bulky waters / fast electrics. The speed is for Adamant Gyarados (who doesn't want to tank a fusion bolt in either forme) and Roost lets it keep checking the mons it's supposed to come in on throughout the match. It's a check and not a counter to Greninja because it can't afford to switch in if rocks are up:
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 108 SpD Kyurem-B: 157-187 (40.1 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Extrasensory vs. 0 HP / 108 SpD Kyurem-B: 142-168 (36.3 - 42.9%) -- 95.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 244-288 (85.6 - 101%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Sub Kyurem-B Check
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Calm Nature
- Moonblast
- Moonlight
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Blast
Kyurem-B struggles against fairies in general for their typically good bulk, and Clefable is arguably the most versatile fairy in the tier so I went with it. Virtually any 252 HP Clefable set is going to check special attacking Kyurem-B (or any Kyurem lacking Iron Head lol), as 252+ Ice Beam misses out on the 2HKO, and uninvested Moonblast 2HKOs in return. This set also sets up Stealth Rock, severely restricting Kyu-B's future switch-ins, but Clefable can also set up CMs in Kyu-Bs face and recover off the damage as it goes. Interestingly this set is also only 3HKOd at best by Greninja's Hydro Pump, making it a relatively safe check for that as well.
252+ SpA Teravolt Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Clefable: 136-162 (34.5 - 41.1%) -- 64.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Clefable: 122-144 (30.9 - 36.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 56 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem-B: 216-254 (53.3 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
tbh this set is basically a full counter but it does need to be at upwards of 70% to switch in... and there's always freeze hax.
HP Fire Greninja Check
Kyurem-Black @ Leftovers
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 108 SDef / 148 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Fusion Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Claw
- Roost
At one point I will stop ripping sets from Alexwolf but they're always so good... This Kyu-B has the bulk to only be 3HKOd at best by Greninja and respond w/ a Dragon Claw for upwards of 85% damage. It's a strong utility check to a lot of mons, namely (Mega) Gyarados / bulky waters / fast electrics. The speed is for Adamant Gyarados (who doesn't want to tank a fusion bolt in either forme) and Roost lets it keep checking the mons it's supposed to come in on throughout the match. It's a check and not a counter to Greninja because it can't afford to switch in if rocks are up:
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 108 SpD Kyurem-B: 157-187 (40.1 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Extrasensory vs. 0 HP / 108 SpD Kyurem-B: 142-168 (36.3 - 42.9%) -- 95.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 244-288 (85.6 - 101%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Sub Kyurem-B Check
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Calm Nature
- Moonblast
- Moonlight
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Blast
Kyurem-B struggles against fairies in general for their typically good bulk, and Clefable is arguably the most versatile fairy in the tier so I went with it. Virtually any 252 HP Clefable set is going to check special attacking Kyurem-B (or any Kyurem lacking Iron Head lol), as 252+ Ice Beam misses out on the 2HKO, and uninvested Moonblast 2HKOs in return. This set also sets up Stealth Rock, severely restricting Kyu-B's future switch-ins, but Clefable can also set up CMs in Kyu-Bs face and recover off the damage as it goes. Interestingly this set is also only 3HKOd at best by Greninja's Hydro Pump, making it a relatively safe check for that as well.
252+ SpA Teravolt Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Clefable: 136-162 (34.5 - 41.1%) -- 64.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Clefable: 122-144 (30.9 - 36.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 56 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem-B: 216-254 (53.3 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
tbh this set is basically a full counter but it does need to be at upwards of 70% to switch in... and there's always freeze hax.
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