I was about to post a tl;dr just like I almost did with my last post and realized it wasn't worth it. We all know the consequences of death, whether we choose to address them in a situation such as one outlined in the OP or not. It's in such a moment that we're forced to weigh the benefits vs. the consequences. Is the feeling of justice to see someone who wanted you to die and made you want to die worth the feeling of guilt and grief that might accompany it later on? Probably not. But in that moment, it probably feels like it. You can say "who the fuck are you to judge the value of another person's life?" but I'd venture to extend that same question to the person who I would consider leaving to die.Does he really deserve death? WaterBomb brought up the point that committing suicide over a bully is bad because it would had a profound effect on your friends and family. It works the other way around to. The bully might have his own friends that appreciate his company and/or a family that loves him. Would you deprive these people of this person? I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just giving out some food for thought.
I'm not deciding who lives and who dies, nature is. I'm merely refusing to intervene in the course of it because I loathe the person. It would be nice if bullying were a crime, or if people were simply properly punished for it. Maybe then I wouldn't feel the need to have no empathy for them for their own comeuppance. But it's not, and they aren't, so that revulsion gets to fester in everyone whom it happens towards. I'm of the mind that the only things that should get death penalties are murder and rape. But we aren't talking about justice systems here and that's a locked topic elsewhere. We're talking about nature, about someone who has fallen into water and can't swim back to shore. If I wasn't there, they'd still die wouldn't they?I get that you see it as acceptable, but I'm questioning why that is. Do you think that bullying, if criminalised, should result in the death penalty, or it is just one of those things where it's bad to actively kill someone (whether through the justice system or any other way) but you get to be the one who decides who lives? Or is there some other reason for it?
Also, I'd describe reaching out to save someone but pulling back at the last second just to get off on the panicked look on their face as they drown as a particularly fucked up form of bullying, far more so than being enraged by it happening to you, but hey. Would it be morally acceptable to do the same to someone who wasn't a bully?
csbOk why is every one giving the politically correct answer 75% of us youd watch them die or leave them if no one was to watch of corse I now from experience that I wanted to see them die or planed to kill them myself but I never actually did but this is what is true and I know many of you will disagree with me and if you do I don't really care
I'm not trying to look "impressive" What the fuck do I gain from looking impressive about this? It's the unpopular opinion. I have empathy for some but not all, especially people who wrong me. Get off your fucking high horse.so many people in this thread have some sort of twisted god complex in their heads, like you get this rush of some vigilante justice being enacted by letting somebody who has done a wrong die, or you get some kind of power high from being a "decider" in such a scenario
especially when you consider that bullying is a very lax thing to do (albeit incredibly serious and needing attention by society) comparatively for things that are legally awarded death (not that i agree with that either, but it serves to put things in a perspective)
i do not wish death on any person and especially when it comes to a one on one situation where i could potentially save a life, and i hope the people who are trying to look impressive and tough are not truly so lacking in empathy as they are trying to come across
It's easy to infer you were talking about anyone who said "No."who said i was talking to you, outlaw?
but now, i am: if you really think caring for other people enough that you dont want them to die just because they wronged you is being on a "high horse", then you should give serious consideration to growing up and maturing
did you get fairy god parents?unfortunately, probably. anyone who bullied me in school has either shaped up into a proper adult or they still suck, so i'm indifferent. the only person i would cringe at rescuing is my older babysitter i had when i was younger. she would physically and emotionally abuse all the kids she babysat, including my sister and i, and later my brother, so i'm not too fond of her.
And I'm not judging you at all.(Except now with my next sentence.) Maybe you should mature and grow up and not think you're some high and mighty end all, be all authority on morality.yes, i am judging you for saying you would let somebody who wronged you in a relatively minor way die when you could prevent it
(nature's course is a load of horse shit in a situation such as this, please don't pretend that humans are subject to the same level of interaction with the forces of nature as other creatures, im sure you know that you are grasping very hard at best with this point)