1. Welcome to Smogon! Check out the Smogon Starters Hangout for everything you need to know about starting out in the community. Don't forget to introduce yourself in the Introduction and Hangout Thread, too!
  2. Welcome to Smogon Forums! Please take a minute to read the rules.

Gen 3 your typical RMT

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by typical noob, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. typical noob

    typical noob

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    4
    Hi, my NetBattle name is "your typical noob".

    Some of you may recognize me as being a very boring, annoying, cheap, noobish, and sometimes utterly retarded opponent. Anyway, below is the team I am using currently. So far, it has given me a 3/2 win/loss ratio. I know, "ZOMG it's skarmbliss and celebi. You suck nub." Please RMT anyway:

    Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Big Bird
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 254 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Extrasensory
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Metal Sound
    - Thunderbolt

    Celebi @ Leftovers ** Tinker Bell
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 236 HP / 48 Spd / 226 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Giga Drain
    - Heal Bell
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Psychic

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Can-Opener
    Trait: Keen Eye
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Roar
    - Spikes

    Metagross @ Leftovers ** Megatron
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 212 HP / 254 Atk / 44 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Agility
    - Earthquake
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Cholesterol
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 212 HP / 254 Def / 44 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Counter
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunder
    - Wish

    Claydol @ Leftovers ** Eye for an Eye
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 244 Def / 14 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Light Screen
    - Rapid Spin
    - Reflect
    - Toxic

    I've been having trouble dealing with Raikou, Regice, CMEntei, Ludicolo, and Dusclops among others.

    Note: I always add the two extra EV's because I'm a little bit obsessive compulsive.
  2. touched

    touched

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2007
    Messages:
    240
    You have problems with Taunting Tyranitars, as stated before, but also VILtar and Boah. Without a sturdy Celebi, you should have a status absorber somewhere. I'd probably use a Restalking Zapdos since MSDos isn't that effective without Spikes. Also consider something that can kill off Salamence. Suicune or Milotic can go over Celebi or something.
  3. Aeroblacktyl

    Aeroblacktyl The pizza doesn't scream in the oven! LOL!
    is a Tutor Alumnusis a Tournament Director Alumnusis a Site Staff Alumnusis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnusis a Past SPL + WCoP Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,334
    Truth be told, you have a horrible horrible fire weakness. You're probably better off using Starmie over Claydol. You still Rapid Spin, but you're outspeeding Fire types that would shred you down to bits, example: Entei and Charizard and Houndoom.

    Seismic Toss over Thunder or something would do well on Blissey too. You are now able to stop Raikou finely and most other special attackers, and fuck around with Regice and most likely outstalling it anyways.

    As for other random stuff, I'd rather have Leech Seed or Perish Song on Celebi, or even both if you can. The team doesn't really seem to need Heal Bell, as if you add Starmie, you have 3 Natural Curers, a Resting Poke, and a Zapdos who doesn't really care that much about being status'd. LS or PS can help you with Last Pokes, as Suicune and Snorlax will definitely hurt you. Perish Song also stops Baton Pass.
  4. typical noob

    typical noob

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    4
    What's a good EV spread and moveset for Starmie? What about StalkGross and StalkDos?
  5. Umby

    Umby I'm gonna bury you in the ground~
    is a Contributor Alumnus

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    1,501
    Starmie can just run Timid with 330-352 speed and the rest in HP/SAtk. Most things with Stalk do better with Max HP. After that, stalker Metagross might want Impish with a good amount of Def EVs and the Rest in Atk, or SDef if you want. Zapdos wants 241-245 speed total with the remainder in Satk/Sdef.
  6. typical noob

    typical noob

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    4
    Are these okay?

    Metagross @ Leftovers ** Megatron
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 118 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Starmie @ Leftovers ** Re-Generation X
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 44 HP / 216 Spd / 250 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Surf
    - Thunderbolt

    It would be kinda fun to Skill Swap Illuminate for Levitate, Marvel Scale, Pressure, Volt Absorb, other Natural Cure, or to just screw up other pokemon's abilities.
  7. Umby

    Umby I'm gonna bury you in the ground~
    is a Contributor Alumnus

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    1,501
    Metagross still will need Attack EVs. You should still have 2 more EVs left for that Starmie to put into Special Attack. Skill Swap would be interesting, but it only lasts for as long as you don't switch, and the skills you could swap for within that time frame are only so helpful. The only good scenario I could see would be Skill Swapping Lanturn, but you still couldn't do anything back to it.
  8. Aeroblacktyl

    Aeroblacktyl The pizza doesn't scream in the oven! LOL!
    is a Tutor Alumnusis a Tournament Director Alumnusis a Site Staff Alumnusis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnusis a Past SPL + WCoP Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,334
    Yeah, but if you think about what switches into Starmie, that Skill Swap will make you switch out. For example, you Skill Swap the incoming Blissey, next time it switches out, it's trait goes back to normal anyways. Skill Swapping a Zapdos on the switch, I doubt taking away 2 of it's Bolt PP will bother it much against Starmie. The only one where you could really use is against Jolteon on the switch.

    Also due to lack of hard hitting, you could attempt that same Metagross set but with CB. Of course you'd have to switch it in and out a bit to use it, but it doesn't hurt that much. I might even -suprise- people. =x

Users Viewing Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 0)