YUM or YUCK: CAP Edition

[JigglykongisFUM16]

fixed whoops lol

 

[sparktrain]

Stratagem
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 HP
Timid nature
-Ancient Power
- Earth power
- Fire Blast
- Energy Ball
252+ Atk Apicot Berry Talonflame Natural Gift (100 BP Ground) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Stratagem: 248-294 (77 - 91.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Technician Stratagem Ancient Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 756-892 (254.5 - 300.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Stratagem switches in and kills

...except Stratagem is always 2HKOed by Natural Gift + priority Brave Bird. no counter.

252+ Atk Apicot Berry Talonflame Natural Gift (100 BP Ground) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Stratagem: 248-294 (77 - 91.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Stratagem: 111-132 (34.4 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

here's a hippo for talon instead

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Toxic
- Slack Off

Hippowdon doesn't take much at all from Talonflame's attacks and can heal off any damage done with Slack Off. From there, KO back with Stone Edge (or win with Toxic, BB recoil + sand damage, etc)

252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 109-130 (25.9 - 30.9%) -- 7.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Hippowdon Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 420-496 (140.9 - 166.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Bramblestein]

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Impish Nature
- Power Whip
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Thunder Wave

0 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 170-204 (40.4 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 81-96 (23 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Hippowdon Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 27-32 (7.6 - 9%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Ferrothorn takes a pittance from even Earthquake and can either just spam Power Whip to KO or can use Seed + Protect to stay nice and healthy. Also he takes no damage from Sand.

 

[cbrevan]

Camerupt-Mega @ Cameruptite
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Rock Slide
- Flash Cannon

I'm not gonna bother calcing this but long story short Mega Camerupt makes Ferrothorn cry.

 

[sparktrain]

Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Psychic

tanks a hit, KOes back

252+ SpA Sheer Force Mega Camerupt Earth Power vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 228-268 (62.4 - 73.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Manaphy Surf vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Mega Camerupt: 472-556 (137.6 - 162%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[EternalSnowman]

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Haze
- Wish

+3 252 SpA Manaphy Psychic vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Vaporeon: 153-180 (33.9 - 39.9%) -- 29.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Manaphy Psychic vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Vaporeon: 62-73 (13.7 - 16.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever

0 SpA Vaporeon Scald vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 46-55 (12.6 - 15%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Vaporeon can Toxic it and Haze on any boosts it wants to accumulate, it's immune to Surf and resists Ice Beam, so barring some Freeze Hax Vapo will always win.

 

[Tadasuke]

Thundurus (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wild Charge
- Brick Break
- Facade
- Hammer Arm

252+ Atk Choice Band Thundurus Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Vaporeon: 666-786 (143.5 - 169.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Can't stop the op.

 

[Sota Higurashi]

Thundurus - Therian(M)@ Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 220 Spe / 168 Def / 120 SpA
Timid Nature
- HP Ice
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Miss
- Volt Switch

Thundy countering thundy


252+ Atk Choice Band Thundurus Facade vs. 0 HP / 168 Def Thundurus-T: 125-148 (41.9 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
120 SpA Choice Specs Thundurus-T Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus: 262-309 (87.6 - 103.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

 

[jas61292]

A little risky there, since Thundy outspeeds Thund-T, so any real passive damage stops it, but... I guess it works. Anyways:

Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power Fire
- Defog

120 SpA Choice Specs Thundurus-T Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 180-212 (60.2 - 70.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus-T: 335-395 (112.4 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

HP Ice hurts if it predicted the switch, but it can take it, and can tank any other attack with ease. It then, of course, outspeeds, and proceeds to drop a meteor on Thundy's head.

 

[aVocado]

I still don't really understand this project and I read the OP a couple times @_@

are we supposed to post a counter to the mon that was posted above? and what does "If no one can come up with a counter for a certain threat, I'll reset the game after a few days." mean?

 

[sparktrain]

I still don't really understand this project and I read the OP a couple times @_@

are we supposed to post a counter to the mon that was posted above? and what does "If no one can come up with a counter for a certain threat, I'll reset the game after a few days." mean?

Yup, the goal is to counter the mon directly above your post. If a mon is completely uncounterable (hasn't happened yet) I'll post with a different threat to be countered and we continue from there.

 

[Sota Higurashi]

A little risky there, since Thundy outspeeds Thund-T, so any real passive damage stops it, but... I guess it works.

Tada's thundy wasnt a modest nature so my thundy -t outspeeds

Colossoil@ Assault Vest
Adamant Nature
Ability: Guts
EVs: 80 Def / 176 SpD / 252 Atk

- Pursuit
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin


252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 176 SpD Assault Vest Colossoil: 195-230 (47.9 - 56.5%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 402-474 (134.4 - 158.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Colo tanks a Draco and kills with Knock Off. Also, pursuit kills if Latios switches out

 

[Tadasuke]

Thundurus (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wild Charge
- Superpower
- Facade
- U-turn

252+ Atk Choice Band Thundurus Superpower vs. 0 HP / 80 Def Colossoil: 464-548 (114 - 134.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Thundurus U-turn vs. 0 HP / 80 Def Colossoil: 272-322 (66.8 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Colossoil Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 184-217 (61.5 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

CAN'T STOP THE OP

 

[cbrevan]

Wow its really switching into Knock Off and tanking a Sucker Punch well.

252+ Atk Colossoil Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 184-217 (61.5 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus: 222-262 (74.2 - 87.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[jas61292]

So uh... yeah. Why don't you all go back and read that Colossoil set. K?

It does not have Sucker Punch. So Thundy totally gets its attack off without getting hit, other than on the switch in. Unfortunately, Colo does have Knock Off, and without a Band, Thundy can't KO and dies. So yeah.... make that a yuck.

 

[sparktrain]

Yeah Thundurus loses if it switches into Knock Off as jas just mentioned, here are the calcs:

252+ Atk Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 223-264 (74.5 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Thundurus Superpower vs. 0 HP / 80 Def Colossoil: 310-366 (76.1 - 89.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Colossoil Knock Off vs. -1 0 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 225-265 (75.2 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I'll post hippo again because why not?

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Ice Fang
- Slack Off

Hippowdon shrugs off anything Colossoil does to it, keeps itself healthy with Slack Off, and 3HKOes back with Earthquake. As a bonus, it also counters Choice Band Thundurus (smh)

252+ Atk Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 117-138 (27.8 - 32.8%) -- 76.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Colossoil Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 120-142 (28.5 - 33.8%) -- 0.9% chance to 3HKO

0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 80 Def Colossoil: 141-166 (34.6 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[Bramblestein]

Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power Electric
- Secret Sword
- Scald
- Icy Wind

0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 130-154 (40.2 - 47.6%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Scald vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 440-522 (104.7 - 124.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Keldeo can switch in on Earthquake and OHKO with Scald.

 

[Sota Higurashi]

Raikou@ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 224 Spe / 32 HP
Timid Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
HP Grass
- Shadow Ball

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 262-310 (79.6 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Raikou Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 342-404 (105.8 - 125%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Raikou Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 440-518 (136.2 - 160.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

May the Pony Rest In Pieces

 

[Fiend]

thread needs more lc mons...

Deerling @ Eviolite
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Snore
- Thunder Wave
- Shadow Ball

it wins eventually.

 

[sparktrain]

Diggersby @ Life Orb
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch
- Quick Attack

Immune to Thunder Wave and Shadow Ball, takes like 10% from Snore if Return happens to get a min roll.

252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Deerling: 320-378 (99 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

 

[Empress]

Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Unnerve (Tough Claws)
EVs: 212 Atk / 44 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Aerial Ace
- Aqua Tail
- Earthquake

252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 0 HP / 44 Def Mega Aerodactyl: 152-179 (50.4 - 59.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
212+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl Aqua Tail vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Diggersby: 358-422 (114.7 - 135.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Mega Aero switches into Return once and OHKOes.

 

[Sota Higurashi]

Rotom-Wash@ Leftovers
Ability: levitate
EVs: 216 Def / 248 HP / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
-Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will - o - Wisp
- Pain Split

212+ Atk Mega Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Rotom-W: 127-151 (41.9 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 258-306 (85.7 - 101.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
0 SpA Rotom-W Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 168-198 (55.8 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Rotom can either KO or 2ko with Hydro pump or burn aero and Possibly take less damage, but Rotom always wins bar an unfortunate crit

 

[cbrevan]

Serperior @ Life Orb
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Knock Off

252 SpA Life Orb Serperior Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 361-429 (119.1 - 141.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Need I say more?

 

[Bramblestein]

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Swords Dance
- Roost

+2 252 SpA Serperior Dragon Pulse vs. 120 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 175-206 (53.5 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Serperior: 398-470 (136.7 - 161.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Talon can switch in and take even a +2 Dragon Pulse and then use Brave Bird

 

[EternalSnowman]

Geodude
Ability: Sturdy
Hardy Nature
-Stone Edge


0 Atk Geodude Stone Edge vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 472-564 (144.3 - 172.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Geodude: 85-101 (38.4 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Geodude: 171-201 (77.3 - 90.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Rekt...