NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

Is it normal to have 4 MLs to lose in a 17 player game? I feel like usually it’s 3 but I guess I’ve mostly played 13 player games

Life is a lot easier if I can assume HH is town but HH hasn’t exactly filled me with confidence today other than not being able to coordinate with cele to hammer me I guess
 
JALMONT said:
I think both Shane/cele look a lot better after having their roles succeed last night to the point where we should keep them alive. I think Shane’s role makes sense as a secondary info role and a doctor does make a little more sense given the conditions necessary for my role and the existence of mafia having multiple ways to get past protection.

For actions tonight assuming these people stay alive, Flanders needs to continue to target AF who should redirect to someone of her choice (or we could put it on whoever Shane track/watches. It’s very suspicious to me that Flanders claimed result only after AF did but we might just vote him out anyways so this is all moot

celever should probably pick between protecting dusk and Shane, Shane should pick between dusk and me but maybe he can choose whoever except for like neon and af lol. I don’t think there’s much merit in watching me (btw I am confirmed to not have a night action or at least I didn’t go anywhere last night) since everyone questions my slot anyways so it’s actually ok if I die. Celever is probably ok to die too since he needs to block a kill eventually or we vote him but there’s a marginally higher probability mafia kills him vs killing me
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Mostly agree with this, I’d prefer Shane protected by celever and Shane to just full send wherever he thinks best though
 
JALMONT said:
Is it normal to have 4 MLs to lose in a 17 player game? I feel like usually it’s 3 but I guess I’ve mostly played 13 player games

Life is a lot easier if I can assume HH is town but HH hasn’t exactly filled me with confidence today other than not being able to coordinate with cele to hammer me I guess
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3 or 4 both is possible, it depends on role power usually high power games it’s less
 
a fairy youre starting to fall into the same bucket as laurel now (And hydro) it’s all well and good to say “im town don’t vote me”

and say we wouldn’t get any info since you’ve not done much or w/e but as the end approaches and vote options run out if you don’t commit and try solve the game, you leave us no choice, the defensiveness approach is not something I find scummy from you particularly but it certainly doesn’t help town because you’re shoehorning yourself into a must die situation, and giving mafia loads of space to just out post you
 
to clarify, you wont get much info since ive not done much bc if you vote me, i flip town, then what, it's not like there's a ton in my iso for you to go off of to find scum
 
a fairy said:
to clarify, you wont get much info since ive not done much bc if you vote me, i flip town, then what, it's not like there's a ton in my iso for you to go off of to find scum
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yes and we are considering voting you since you’ve not done much too, so regardless of alignment it’s not a very valid defence, you are right there’s not much info but there is almost definitely mafia in the laurel/you/hydro group

and there’s almost certainly mafia in the higher contributing group too, but if you don’t give enough to show you are town, you don’t let us solve correctly and truly poe

sometimes it is towns fault for voting wrong, and sometimes it’s town fault for letting themselves get voted, if you just say “w/e I know I’m town you’re wrong”

well maybe we are, but it’s not much for us to tell between you and the mafia if you’re probably playing the same (or similar) to how scummy slots are, so please help us make the right decision by making stands
 
If you are the town in the shrug town is voting me wrongly group, then you’re playing into and endgame to lose to the mafia hyper contributing group, you don’t have to giga try hard but you absolutely have to give something to why you’re town
 
Duskfall98 said:
if you want to wagon her wagon her but I don’t think it’s good to ftr and if you want to make a push waiting till day end is not the way to do it as town
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my guy, you make vote suggestions and then go "I don't want to lead" and when I'm making suggestions you go "I don't want to do that esp this late"

Please make up your mind dude, this game has stagnated and I have no idea on what critieria I should even be voting on.

If its scummy play I want to vote af.

If its Info on wagons then lynching Celever/Shane is actually good. The reason we're getting cold feet here is because they're claimed power roles.

If its role claims itself then yeah flanders and laurel. Rogue itself is pretty useless and there's no way to even prove laurel's role.


But if we're lynching between flanders/laurel you're leading that anyway so stop saying that lol.
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
See: wikimafia m2h
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No, you will not make me sheet another game.
I already have this game, a game that I was in during this whilst cosplaying as a radio that has since ended (in a forfeit lol) (that I had to temporarily abandon the sheet of due to comparable levels of both size and sheer behind-ness to this game at that point (currently only like 13% done)), and a mash that I've been sheeting on and off for the past 5 MONTHS.
I don't need another sheet.
 
bluedoom said:
my guy, you make vote suggestions and then go "I don't want to lead" and when I'm making suggestions you go "I don't want to do that esp this late"

Please make up your mind dude, this game has stagnated and I have no idea on what critieria I should even be voting on.

If its scummy play I want to vote af.

If its Info on wagons then lynching Celever/Shane is actually good. The reason we're getting cold feet here is because they're claimed power roles.

If its role claims itself then yeah flanders and laurel. Rogue itself is pretty useless and there's no way to even prove laurel's role.


But if we're lynching between flanders/laurel you're leading that anyway so stop saying that lol.
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I mean I never said I was going to sheep you, I’ll vote how I feel come end of day but I also want people to full play and make plays that I can read into tomorrow, if you want to push a fairy then push her but idt I end up on her at day end, it could be a wagon we gain knowledge from and maybe she is mafia idk

don’t get the frustration at me but ok
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
No, you will not make me sheet another game.
I already have this game, a game that I was in during this whilst cosplaying as a radio that has since ended (in a forfeit lol) (that I had to temporarily abandon the sheet of due to comparable levels of both size and sheer behind-ness to this game at that point (currently only like 13% done)), and a mash that I've been sheeting on and off for the past 5 MONTHS.
I don't need another sheet.
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Why are you sheeting the mash still?
 
Duskfall98 said:
I mean I never said I was going to sheep you, I’ll vote how I feel come end of day but I also want people to full play and make plays that I can read into tomorrow, if you want to push a fairy then push her but idt I end up on her at day end, it could be a wagon we gain knowledge from and maybe she is mafia idk

don’t get the frustration at me but ok
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the frustration is that you're saying that it bad for making a suggestion when I'm just trying to play the game here
 
We can just vote one of cele and Shane tomorrow worst case scenario

Laurel or Flanders or even AF is ok with me. I still truly believe Flanders is town but objectively there’s no good reason to keep him alive

I will say people claiming passive only roles is suspicious. You are basically vanilla if you only have a passive (although I guess AF targets someone every night). Which now means I tinfoil Joey lol
 
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