Celever:
+Voteparkers being mafia at EoD1 does lend itself to the idea that Jalmont/Celever/pulsar were all town wagons
+Voted laurel, but I'm not sure how strong a point this is considering that the game was facing the threat of universal loss.
=been flashwagoned at 2 EoDs, not as strong a point since there are flipped town/not mafia on both flashwagons that make less sense,
-The Oligarchy Theory lol.
- Defended laurel during D3 and was lukewarm about a laurel vote D2.
-Doc claim is kinda sus esp with the N1 flanders target, but also in context of strongman/bus driver outright negating it. Although maybe strongman doesn't exist and laurel's vest was just a fake vest.
-I do think at different points in D1/D2 it felt like you were shading anything and everything that you saw without thinking about what they even implied. I don't think this is as strong a point though but it is something I've kept in mind.
Shane:
+Townie D1
=Roleclaim is good in the sense that we're starving for info roles, but not doing anything for 2 nights is kinda sus.
-p much stuck on a tunnel at this point
-Makes sense as mafia with EoD2 wagons
-Wanted to vote af over laurel, although I don't think this is as bad since I still think af has scum equity.
Flanders:
+Brash play that's more likely to come from town
+Flipping from af to laurel when af was a counterwagon to his looks good, but that's only if af is town, if af is mafia this is kinda a moot point imo.
-Acted like a psycho at EoD2.
-Rogue claim is bad but even worse are the targets; joey is a passive role and af redirects all actions on her to someone else, so effectively they are useless targets? Might as well have idled at that point.
-Probably scum if Shane is town.
HH:
+I keep thinking about this. If Jalmont is town, and there's another non town role with daykill capabilities, then Town!Mayor acts as a counterbalance to misvigs/dayshots on town. On the other hand, I think that in a 3rd party Jalmont world HH could make sense as mafia since doublevoter would be needed in the 3 man scumteam. If Jalmont is outright mafia(lol) then mafia also having a doublevoter would be very lame and not balanced.
+Both the flipped mafia called for a wagon on him last phase
-Absolutely 0 presence, I thought it was bad D3 but got even worse in D4. I think my points about HH have been covered in that wall post that I made back in D3.
A Fairy:
+I'm struggling here. The recent wallpost felt like you were calling everyone scum and was unhelpful, I was going to say that you flipped from thinking laurel was town to laurel is mafia between your reads list in D2 and D4,but that actually checks out when factoring the big difference here being the clouds death. So I can buy that viewpoint coming from town.
=Voted genisu, but also voted laurel. I'm not sure how strong this point is given that the game was facing the threat of a universal loss.
-Low Presence
-Voted with Alice in general
-Too much inconsistency with votes wrt reads, but tbf D4 was better.
Joey:
+Role is p townie
=Low presence, but tbh whenever he has posted something it hasn't felt scummy to me at all.
-Voted genisu, and was offwagon laurel on D4.
Town: bluedoom, Tommy, Neon. Jalmont(?)
