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On the other hand the US has been the leader in technology innovation. Breaking up tech companies and over regulating like the left wants to see would be a disaster. US and China's success in technology has created millions of high paying jobs, economic growth and built tremendous wealth. Voting for the far left is a sure way to kill our momentum and competitive advantage in technology and many other sectors we lead the world in (finance, media, industrials, etc.)

Remind me who it was who spent every other waking hour sabre-rattling about sanctioning Chie-nah while he was in office?
 
I have a broader view.

If said radicalization is happening in other countries, we can't go around calling it the radicalization of the Republican party.

Political extremism has been on the rise in a global scale and taking different forms depending on the country.

People can hardly mention the word "politics" without someone snapping nowadays, let alone have any kind of civil discourse on policy.
Surely you must've seen the impact the last cycles had in your country. That's not normal.

Radicalisation phenomena in other countries are still extremely one-sided. Whether that's in Europe, Latin America, or North America. My country is Canada, where instead we just simply have the major right-wing party embracing literal neo-Nazis to the point they're getting published in major news sites. There might be isolated cases where the extreme faction is "left-wing" oriented (ie in Latin America) but in almost every single case, the "left-wing" party is the conservative one. What we're seeing is the radicalisation of conservative factions around the world into a global anti-democratic movement,, with the Republican Party at the vanguard of this movement. Telling people it's "polarisation" because "people snap at talking about politics" isn't meaningful, you wouldn't describe this behaviour in Iran or a dictatorship as "polarisation" because it's a term specifically reserved for western societies unable to grapple with the presence of mainstream anti-democratic politics.


Also, it's painfully funny that people whp spent the last 8 years doing nothing are saying "see you in the camps" lmao, stop pretending you're in the fight when all you do amounts to hand wringing over having to do anything
 
Also, it's painfully funny that people whp spent the last 8 years doing nothing are saying "see you in the camps" lmao, stop pretending you're in the fight when all you do amounts to hand wringing over having to do anything

It's wacky that you know enough about my personal life to deduce that I spent the last 8 years doing nothing. Are you stalking me?


EDIT: It's also interesting that you think Canadian Nazi researchers or whatever the hell you consider yourself are more affected by this than queer American leftists. I probably won't be seeing you in the camps, fortunately for both of us.
 
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It's wacky that you know enough about my personal life to deduce that I spent the last 8 years doing nothing. Are you stalking me?


EDIT: It's also interesting that you think Canadian Nazi researchers or whatever the hell you consider yourself are more affected by this than queer American leftists. I probably won't be seeing you in the camps, fortunately for both of us.

"I probably won't be seeing you in the camps" correct, I refuse to die like a dog on my knees as you people invade my country. Can you say the same, Yankee?


I stand with the gonzaloites. Follow the Shining Path

Lmao the American left is so cooked, kind of like how the femicidal Shining Path boils babies
 
Honestly real talk boo is just incredibly odious and grating and he just put me in the mood to drop that fat stinker in there. Not even because of some inane online liberal vs leftist beef or w/e because I don't get pissed at like RaikouLover's posts, I like that guy. Dude just puts me in a bad mood whenever I see that smug av followed by some histrionic screed. He's a vibe killer

Anyways, four dollars a pound

Is that really how you feel about the people who died in camps during the reign of the Nazis?

Do you even know who you're talking to there? That guy studies fascism, you Know-Nothing leftist.
 
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One entirely lacked historical precedent for extermination camps on such a scale, the other is literally predicated on that precedent. Sitting there saying "welp guess I'm going to the camps," knowing what's going to happen, and not doing anything about it? That's just the height of cowardice.

You did nothing during the rise of fascism, you're going to do nothing when the fascists retake power, you'll do nothing when you people invade my country like you've threarened to for the past five years, and you'll be a Good German when all that death returns to America.
Surely, all of those people in Nazi Germany who were shipped off to death camps didn't have any idea of what was going to happen to them, and your statements couldn't imply anything unseemly about them. After all, it was entirely unprecedented!

I've never been among those joking about going to the camps, but as those people have already pointed out, you know very little about what they have and have not done to combat the rise of the far-right outside of this gaming forum. If you found out that they were fighting Nazis in the streets, would you relent, or would you invent another reason to accuse them of not having the right to be as miserable as you?
 
I've never been among those joking about going to the camps, but as those people have already pointed out, you know very little about what they have and have not done to combat the rise of the far-right outside of this gaming forum. If you found out that they were fighting Nazis in the streets, would you relent, or would you invent another reason to accuse them of not having the right to be as miserable as you?

His whole gimmick is wanting to constantly relive 2016 Dem primary flame wars with mid 20-somethings on a competitive Pokemon forum. So no, he wouldn't.
 
Literally anyone spending this much time in this thread arguing back and forth about electoral politics is LARPing, you can all get off your high horses and go spend more time touching grass and doing shit instead of wagging your dick on the internet about how much you do or doomposting about how we're all fucked. It's a fucking Pokemon forum and it's long past time for everyone who's posting on an hourly rotation to log the fuck off and do literally anything else.

This is an entirely fair criticism and I think I will do just that.
 
I’ve done as much research as you if not more, I’ve been attacked by fascists, and I’ve generally been through and done more than enough to not be condescended to by some canadian prick with an ego, but I suppose if I don’t fedpost and dox myself I must be a LARPer with no real exposure. Whatever contacts you have and online research you do is not a substitute for actively living here, and me saying that most of the fascists screaming for blood are LARPing is not dismissive, it’s fact. It only takes a tiny minority of them to inflict devastating amounts of violence - that sliver is exactly the thing I’m worried about, while the rest act as enablers and support for the violence. Get over yourself and your enormous ego already and log off if you’re doing so much - I’m sure you could be doing more or getting valuable rest instead of spending every spare moment arguing about it on a pokémon forum.

"Whatever research you do is not a substitute for living here," correct, it's better. Americans know fuck all about their own country and politics. They're proudly ignorant, uneducated, and uncaring about anyone or anything else. What you're hearing isn't ego, it's disdain for those who want to pretend to be in the fight, ESPECIALLY Americans.

This whole "I'm not going to fedpost and doxx myself" is nothing but grandstanding. If you're unable to talk about your experiences without doxxing yourself then either you don't know how exposure works or you're just simply bullshitting me.
 
um yes it is often not safe to talk about specifc political activities in an insecure online forum??? even solely from mainstream media you would know that there have been thousands of arrests across the so called us over the past eight months in relation to pro-palestine protests, and obv thats not the only 'front' of struggle + the danger of private doxxing etc in addition to surveillance and criminalization by the State itself.
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discounting any interactions elsewhere, none of us know shit about each other's lives and the idea that anyone knows what each person has or hasnt done in their lives based on some posts in this thread is just preposterous. and the expectation that people should be sharing 'proof' of [whatever political activities boo has in mind which i truly have no idea at this point, not that i want or need to know], in addition to potentially being unsafe is also j pointless
 
I think the above post is a good place to end the current discussion. As stated in the OP, no one here is an expert and no is expected to be, no one needs to prove anything. Also as stated this is not a thread for "Man vs Thread". Further posts regarding "credentials" and further glibness about being thrown into camps and the like will likely just be deleted, this is not a productive area of discussion.

What is productive is discussing what we actually can do as stated in Sablette's post above, I think that's a great idea.
 
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Are we allowed to talk about how the Trump Pokémon has a notch in its ear exactly where Trump was shot, or are we not ready to go down this rabbit hole just yet.
 
I think the above post is a good place to end the current discussion. As stated in the OP, no one here is an expert and no is expected to be, no one needs to prove anything. Also as stated this is not a thread for "Man vs Thread". Further posts regarding "credentials" and further glibness about being thrown into camps and the like will likely just be deleted, this is not a productive area of discussion.

What is productive is discussing what we actually can do as stated in Sablette's post above, I think that's a great idea.

Can you tell us what action you'll be taking against the former ICBB user that wasted no time engaging in personal attacks against other users once one of those infractions expired? Because the rest of us are tired of reading their posts.
 
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Are we allowed to talk about how the Trump Pokémon has a notch in its ear exactly where Trump was shot, or are we not ready to go down this rabbit hole just yet.
I’m still mad at GF for not giving us even one Mongoose Pokemon with a speed stat that lives up to Rikki-Tikki…

…but this one has clearly been gorging on too much fast food burritos, burgers and chicken nuggies to get any higher base speed than it got. Clearly should actually get -30 base Speed, +300lbs. They should also have given it Poson Gas and ability Stench if they really want to convince us on this design.
 
Fatphobia’s not cool btw, Trump is shit for plenty of reasons that don’t include making fun of his physical traits.

My two cents on this-
100% agree.

I was invited into a political whatsapp chat by a friend, the demographic being most millennial black voters. And while the tone is generally anti-Trump there are a couple Trump sympathizers whose core argument against Biden is that he is old, has dementia, and is dumb. And for some reason people responded by pointing out that Trump is fat and also old.

Point being- there is so much else that can be said about the stark contrast in the vision, policies, and character between the two candidates. Why in the fuck is American political discourse more juvenile than a high school popularity contest?

Trump is a twice impeached, 34X convicted felon found liable of rape, business fraud, and trying to overthrow an election. His stated goal is to turn America into White-ChristoNationalist Ethnostate with himself as supreme leader. But he’s fat and orange!! (Yes, he is funny to look at but the physical appearance attacks are dumb)

The Biden dementia, age related jokes are actually backfiring. Elderly people vote more than any demographic and see themselves through that same lens of ageism. Likewise, President Biden also has a minor speech disability and people are downplaying how many Americans are highly functional with disabilities themselves. Not only are these superficial attacks not funny, they are not electorally effective.
 
I get all of that, and I generally agree-- and maybe I am just being juvenile-- but the courtroom farting discourse lead by the Meidas Touch guys was a bit too golden for my reptile brain to reject. apologies :poopemoji:
 
The Biden dementia, age related jokes are actually backfiring. Elderly people vote more than any demographic and see themselves through that same lens of ageism. Likewise, President Biden also has a minor speech disability and people are downplaying how many Americans are highly functional with disabilities themselves. Not only are these superficial attacks not funny, they are not electorally effective.

This. Not a lot of folks out there realize how old the average American voter is; one source puts the figure at 63 for registered Democrats. And that's the MEDIAN age. So yeah, ageism is gonna backfire on Trumpers big time, as their inflammatory words and deeds only encourage more senior citizens to get out there and vote for Biden. No one likes to be seen as "less than", especially for something they can't control, their age; and when you say Biden is "demented" because of his slight speech impediment - which he has suffered from since birth - you're essentially committing an ableism and ageism double whammy. That should be enough to give even the most die-hard Republicans some pause.
 
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Old people do not and are not voting because of ageism. You people need to stop claiming such stupid things without at least providing a source besides "trust me bro."

They vote because they have more time, are recipients of medicare and social security, are represented by groups like AARP, and often have closer ties to their community. That's it. They're not running for president so they don't care if you call Joe Biden old.
 
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