I get it also— Biden will definitely win cope I’m sure is a very comforting blankee
I often find my mind reaching for the same blankee in the background myself.
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I get it also— Biden will definitely win cope I’m sure is a very comforting blankee
I often find my mind reaching for the same blankee in the background myself.
Trying really hard to get those abstains from his awful treatment of palestine back, but this was probably the worst way to do it. Israel is blowing up damascus rn, no one is going to take you serious man. This topic has long since left his hands and he's not getting that control back, its joever
Yes. Because he won in 2020, we still have the freedom to disagree in a functioning democracy. In 2024, the choice is Democracy vs. Fascism.
Pick a side.
I see it now--
Team Biden in 2024 obeying some REALLY old rules:
Team Trump in 2024 ignoring all the rules:
Knocked Out:
After that dodge by Smeargle I have a baaaaaad feeling guys
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I think you’ve conducted a case of the hopium if you think Biden is the favorite brother and I get it — but with the far left protests these last months and serious border crisis a sizable amount of moderate liberals were already turned off from Biden. I live in a liberal city in one of the most liberal states, all my friends have voted blue forever and most are sitting out this election, at least when it comes to voting the President. We’re all just yearning for better options.
No hopium. Just some common sense with an outlook on history and political science.
This is tacit admission of an untenable argument. It’s easy to be “pure” from the safety of a safe blue state.
JD Vance would go on all sorts of fascist podcasts, including the "feminists need rape" guy. It's going to be very easy to go after Vance considering his past comments on Trump being Hitler and his known relationships with actual American monarchist, as well as his comments supporting breaking the law and committing atrocities like the Trail of Tears. The real question is whether voters care. What I find interesting is that Vance's Canadian ally was chosen as the anointed legislator to take over a deeply conservative riding, the same guy who praised Kanye for his White Lives Matter shirt and then demanded Kanye apologise to Jews two days later. The Republicans are the vanguard of a transnational movement, and there's a lot more on the line around the world if they succeed than just the comfort of American liberals in deep blue states.
Maybe it's just me, but a room full of white people throwing up their arm and screaming America First demonstrates there's much more on the line than liberals' comfort. Idk, sounds like campaigning against this to your friends might be a good idea.
Oh, and:
I absolutely love the whole line of "asking me about what antifascism I've done is fedposting," then bragging about all the super-secret crimes you've supposedly committed but can't say anything about. Spectacular opsec, totally the real deal. Nothing at all suspicious about someone conflating antifascism with criminality!
Maybe it's just me, but a room full of white people throwing up their arm and screaming America First demonstrates there's much more on the line than liberals' comfort. Idk, sounds like campaigning against this to your friends might be a good idea.
Oh, and:
I absolutely love the whole line of "asking me about what antifascism I've done is fedposting," then bragging about all the super-secret crimes you've supposedly committed but can't say anything about. Spectacular opsec, totally the real deal. Nothing at all suspicious about someone conflating antifascism with criminality!
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Exactly. If this is how people here feel imagine how bad it is in states where your votes matter. We’ll see who’s right in November but Trump has only gained voters since last time and Biden has only lost them.
biden 2020 surpassed clinton’s 2016 attempt because people generally felt enamored to vote to defend democracy — but their option is a gentlemen who can’t complete a sentence — it doesn’t empower voters to want to defend democracy anymore.
Please stop posting. I will vote for Biden if you do.
Really Trump has gained voters? After January 6, 2021? The 91 indictments, 34 felonies, being found liable for rape, and trying to overturn the 2020 election?
That is not what Donald Trump’s 53.7% disapproval rating says. It is the same rating and vote share he has claimed for the last eight years.
If we accept this to be true, we accept that the American voter doesn’t give a damn about democracy. We accept that a vote for democracy only happens if the current President is burning the White House down. I won’t reject this premise. The tacit admission above about blue state protest voting shows some folks true colors.
No, please don’t vote for Biden. I want the popular vote-electoral college gap to shrink.
antifascism does in fact get criminalized in all sorts of ways. (around the world too but ofc at higher rates for those living under the State that incarcerates 4x more people than the rest of the world combined). your fantasy in which there are no risks to antifascism is astounding.
and nobody owes you explanations for anything lol imagine being a random person in an irrelevant online thread and being like lmao all of you owe me your life stories and a résume proving your political record TM
and nobody owes you explanations for anything lol imagine being a random person in an irrelevant online thread and being like lmao all of you owe me your life stories and a résume proving your political record TM
Team Biden in 2024 obeying some REALLY old rules:
If you're trying to convince me to vote for Biden even harder by associating him with Obi Stall, it's working.
I also love Obi Stall, detest Moody, and will vote Biden.
I just want Biden to forget the game and perma ban Moody clause abusing ICBB fascists while he’s still Site Admin and King of the tiering council. Why are we playing this out????
Edit: And if we have to play it can he at least be ready to switch to Celebi (nicknamed Kamala) and click Perish Song if he needs it??? My man stays missing hippo’s whirlwind as the evasion boosts peak.
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Fortunately, I have found something a lot spicier and accurate than those old dusty polls.
Sports Gambling Websites.
Biden is cooked, stick a fork in it.
On the other hand, having to rebuild his whole campaign on something besides "Trump is a risk to democracy which must be stopped at all costs" might be a massive blessing in disguise.
The Dems need to overhaul their campaign if they want any chance of a victory now, so they better figure something out fast.
With that said, taking out Biden and going into a full civil war so close to the elections is obviously risky at best. That ship has sailed already. Giving him a press conference to wax poetic about foreign policy worked wonders despite the gaffes.
They really gotta get it together if they want to clutch this though. It's already a far worse campaign than Shillary's, and we all know how that ended.
Biden has a 62% disapproval rating if we’re talking numbers. we’ll see who’s right in November but gambling books have Trump as a -280 favorite… that’s massive.
Biden is cooked, stick a fork in it.
On the other hand, having to rebuild his whole campaign on something besides "Trump is a risk to democracy which must be stopped at all costs" might be a massive blessing in disguise.
The Dems need to overhaul their campaign if they want any chance of a victory now, so they better figure something out fast.
With that said, taking out Biden and going into a full civil war so close to the elections is obviously risky at best. That ship has sailed already. Giving him a press conference to wax poetic about foreign policy worked wonders despite the gaffes.
They really gotta get it together if they want to clutch this though. It's already a far worse campaign than Shillary's, and we all know how that ended.
Professor Allan Lictman's Keys to the White House disagrees. The 2024 race is currently "Leans Biden."
As for the disapproval rating, the difference is that President Biden's unfavorable rating includes people that have voted for the Democrats in both 2016 and 2020. Trump's does not.
53.9% of the electorate voted against Trump in 2016.
53.2% of the electorate voted against Trump in 2020.
53.7% of the 2024 electorate has an unfavorable view of Donald Trump.
I'll bet on history.
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"Are you a Zionist?"
"Yes."
Well, if he's worried about losing votes due to his handling of Israel/Palestine, then he should definitely brace for impact now.
Wait but this was always Biden’s stance here. Is the issue just that people weren’t paying attention and didn’t know but now they are?
The issue is that he's clearly trying to win back some of the people who have resolved to never vote for Genocide Joe with these remarks, and he's completely fumbled it by explicitly self-identifying as a Zionist. He didn't even try to conflate anti-Zionism with antisemitism in the way that most Zionists do. I'm not convinced that he needs those votes to beat out Trump in November, but giving the single-issue voters that kind of sound byte sure isn't helping him.
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If he wanted to keep saying it while handing an olive branch to those voters though, he’d have had to do a hella massaging.
Actually at the point he did that “This is actually Israel’s deal and Hamas needs to agree” stunt a couple months back with zero intent to strong arm Netanyahu I think he already peaked making himself look weak, foolish, spineless to those voters. At that point it was already a lost cause, and nothing short of invading Israel could probably fix it.
I agree, but expecting Joe to not straight up identify as a Zionist at every opportunity is like telling Bernie to “please campaign as a Social Democrat” instead of as a Democratic Socialist. Impossible
If he wanted to keep saying it while handing an olive branch to those voters though, he’d have had to do a hella massaging.
Actually at the point he did that “This is actually Israel’s deal and Hamas needs to agree” stunt a couple months back with zero intent to strong arm Netanyahu I think he already peaked making himself look weak, foolish, spineless to those voters. At that point it was already a lost cause, and nothing short of invading Israel could probably fix it.
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Indeed, we can disagree on the choice of words, but the point is that constantly casting doubts on Biden's cognitive integrity is sure to be a fail tactic for his rivals. George W. Bush was infamous for his gaffes, but these were seen as a mere personality quirk, not a symptom of mental decline - why? Besides the obvious ageism, I truly believe that this generation has had their minds hijacked by social media, where anything is true so long as everyone's saying it; similarly, the idea that Biden is "feeble-minded", "too old", "too stupid" to be President has become a kind of meme or hypnotic suggestion that some folks will believe over their own eyes. He's no Einstein, that's for sure, but he's relatively lucid for 81, has the best medical team in the world looking after him, and has been through a battery of cognitive and I.Q. tests to more-or-less satisfactory results. For anyone that cares about preserving American democracy, that should be good enough.
P.S. I didn't wanna say it earlier, but the so-called "good faith concerns" about Biden's cognitive ailment smack uncomfortably of Eugenics, and I'm not sure I'm here for that.
Unrelated to the discussion but I wish political influencers wouldn't exist
You will not find a single one of them that is not artificial and isn't doing it for the grift after a failed career
They are all scum who spread lies and hatred for their own gain. It doesn't matter if left or right. They shouldn't exist
We need to demonetize political content and bar political creators from platforms like Patreon
You will not find a single one of them that is not artificial and isn't doing it for the grift after a failed career
They are all scum who spread lies and hatred for their own gain. It doesn't matter if left or right. They shouldn't exist
We need to demonetize political content and bar political creators from platforms like Patreon
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