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His expression of confusion and admittance that he doesn't really know the answer here really lines up with his town meta where he likes to be super confident in his reads before he will push them. If you ISO him he has consistently been pointing things out that bring up new perspectives and add valuable information. There have also been a few instances of people being accused of sheeping his reads which imo points to him being town if any of those people are scum
 
There is no way mafia doesn't have an active contributor and ngl with me and m2h cleared we are left with hyhy/jalmont and you to some extent. Jalmont's iso looks the scummiest so thats who im voting
 
Town
Lechen
M2H

Townread
Hydro - I've said my piece on him before, he's very solvey and leading stuff and giving major town vibes
JALMONT - see above post, basically just acting really really towny imo

Townlean
Catfries - I do think they are a bit reactive, but I think that is consistent with a new player playing town, I think they would be more reserved/potentially coached and less scrambly if they were scum. This plus the tracker that clears them from 3/4 evil roles (imo)
StupidFlandrs - I would've said scumlean probably like 24 hours ago but his attitude is just so "annoyed-town-not-caring" lol. It totally could be an act and I would not put that past him which is why it is only a lean, but I'm pretty ok with him in the game for now. I think this is my most subject-to-change read

Neutral
des - I totally agree that they are mostly parroting other people's opinions and kind of latching onto smaller things (like saber's saying that Catfries could be mafia backup). But I do think this is more evidence of a new player than a scum player. The reason I put des below Catfries is partially the tracker mechanics but also because I think Catfries would be more receptive to coaching than des would be. I guess this read is less of a neutral and more of a scumlean but I have too many scumleans on this list so I'm putting it here for now


Scumlean
ElectricityCat - They've really only posted game content in the form of reiterating facts about the game - I would like to see more actual reads from you if possible. This is more of a neutral read to be honest but the fact that it's nearing the end of day 2 and this still rings true leans to the scum side I think
saber - He mentioned Redless as his first scumread today, and then he voted and pushed on myself and Catfries but never mentioned Redless again - I think this is evident of s/s where he is trying to distance himself by having a scumread on Redless but not acting on it

Scumread
pulsar - I really think the early lockvote was a play taking advantage of her game reputation and an excuse to not really contribute today. It seems like it should've been super obvious that Catfries wasn't going to be voted today even if you do still have a scumread on them. I don't know if we should let that go unpunished
Redless - Chimed in with an opinion on the catfries vote long after it was already dead as an attempt to add content and make up for a lack of content elsewhere. Their reads seem pretty surface-level and even then they don't really explain. Their last post said they want to vote "saber > pulsar > des > ecat" and imo pulsar is really the only vote within that that I can see logic for. I am curious, however, to see if they will actually follow through on the saber vote since I currently read that as s/s
 
##Vote pulsar

Even if you don't have a vote that doesn't let you escape from giving reads or caring about where the vote goes
pulsar locking vote makes them seem more town then less because that means they don't have a vote to influence wagons or defend themselves later which is v bad for scum
 
pulsar locking vote makes them seem more town then less because that means they don't have a vote to influence wagons or defend themselves later which is v bad for scum
pulsar is very much the type of player to make this type of play

Sure, she loses influence on wagons - but the scumteam never wants to all vote together on a wagon unless they absolutely have to. Even if it means losing a member it never makes sense for the entire scumteam to flip on a vote because it can expose them

She is betting on us making that assumption and trying to get a free townread while also giving no information during the day. I don't buy into that
 
that is a fair point, i was ISOing him specifically so I didn't have that context. I would like to know his thoughts on Redless then but I think he's offline now
 
Actually jalmont's iso looks worse on a reread than joey's and m2h is soft conf town soooo
##vote JALMONT

Yesterday he had Alice ranked very high as a TR #5, he was wrong on DbD yesterday, and he came in the thread today shading me/hyhy/joey and pushing me/joey. I had a thought at day start that Alice kill was meant to say "hey joey wagon is pure" so I was looking for somebody that met the two criteria of 1.) TRed or feared Alice 2.) pushed joey d2 and honestly jalmont just fits that glove too well I can't let him live. Shooting Alice is just 100% a jalmont play here imo. Sorry if you're town jalmont.

Lock ##vote jalmont
 
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