NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

apricity said:
ok, keep voting ehmcee and give me some time :)
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M2H:

Alright, alright... Apricity, I see you just subbed in with all that confidence, saying you're gonna solve this whole thing like it's nothing. You tell Nuxl to keep voting Ehmcee and just "give me some time"—like you're about to crack the case wide open. Respect. I wish I could stroll in with that same aura of "I'm here to make Smogon Town STRONG."

Teach me your ways, Apricity! How do you walk into a game and know you've already got it in the bag? If I could get just a little of that, maybe I’d have a shot at doing my part and pushing Town forward. Help me out here—any wisdom for a budding townie trying to get on your level?
 
apricity said:
hi bluedoom hope you've been well, where's your head at this game?
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think the vote should be on dbd/lechen/ne today, I could entertain a realiti vote and think that the votes on you are a total waste. looking at the cases realiti/ne looked unpaired and probably realiti/tommy too?

I have a scumlean on af for the neon vote, and think that tommy pushing a cfd on to neon eod1 and then pretty much going inactive looks scummy in my book. Jalmont would've been there too but I think he's had a better d2/d3, also because he has been more active so.
 
bluedoom said:
think the vote should be on dbd/lechen/ne today, I could entertain a realiti vote and think that the votes on you are a total waste. looking at the cases realiti/ne looked unpaired and probably realiti/tommy too?

I have a scumlean on af for the neon vote, and think that tommy pushing a cfd on to neon eod1 and then pretty much going inactive looks scummy in my book. Jalmont would've been there too but I think he's had a better d2/d3, also because he has been more active so.
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awkwardly i think jalmont is the most scummy of the neon voters
 
Nuxl said:
i dont think interacting with jalmont will help me develop my read on him
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OK.

I just got here and I obviously respect you and if you're town this game, then you've had a rough go at it so far. If that is your alignment, I'm here to help. At some point in time, you are going to need to help me too, because I am about to wonder very loudly where you are on people like tommy, realiti, and jalmont in like 10 pages and what you've been doing about them for the last 78.
 
apricity said:
OK. You said that Jalmont/M2H was not T/T which was an interesting observation that I wanted to give you a chance to expand on.

I believe this is the first time you've said that M2H is improving for you?

Why are you voting realiti?
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There was some debate soon after and I looked back. I was fairly sure that I was wrong about it not being T/T.

I'm still doing things by gut, so I might be misremembering, but I think M2H has I went back and did a quick check. It's DbD that I thought was getting better. I remembered some ill thoughts re: M2H and not having them now.

I'm voting realiti because of the very good case made against him by NightEmerald.
 
apricity said:
You said:

What was the thing that happened that causes tommy and jalmont to be in this strange new category you've developed?
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bluedoom said:
think the vote should be on dbd/lechen/ne today, I could entertain a realiti vote and think that the votes on you are a total waste. looking at the cases realiti/ne looked unpaired and probably realiti/tommy too?

I have a scumlean on af for the neon vote, and think that tommy pushing a cfd on to neon eod1 and then pretty much going inactive looks scummy in my book. Jalmont would've been there too but I think he's had a better d2/d3, also because he has been more active so.
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long story short the neon votes look bad but think in vaccuum it would be harder to justify a scumread just off of that
 
Aura Guardian said:
very good case made against him by NightEmerald
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I have read that post as well

The first half was about realiti's skipper trajectory, which i thought was very ordinary and shared by other people in the thread as well, including hilariously yourself

The second part is almost completely predicated on M2H being a different alignment from realiti, which I understand, but which it seems you do not believe since you scumread both M2H and realiti. So how do you believe the result of the case when you don't believe the assumption it's predicated on?
 
apricity said:
OK.

I just got here and I obviously respect you and if you're town this game, then you've had a rough go at it so far. If that is your alignment, I'm here to help. At some point in time, you are going to need to help me too, because I am about to wonder very loudly where you are on people like tommy, realiti, and jalmont in like 10 pages and what you've been doing about them for the last 78.
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i had a good d1 but yeah no ive been playing pretty shit d2/3, like ive been active lurking the thread but not really going back to hunt, and also like literally nobodys been pressuring me all game too so the only thing id be doing in thread is showing up and work which i kept pushing back on. Honestly i saw you sub in j now and got more motivation to do more

ftr i thought tommy was townish off his early posting and of the three i'd still call him the most towny, i kinda maintain the belief that the thread isnt in this state if tommy + one of those two you mentioned is scum (it could be if realiti + jalmont is in a team, but for as someone as vocal as tommy i kinda think things become more eh controlled?). i also think scum is mostly within inactives in general though

realiti im trying not to give too much credit, but the real excuse is that i dont want to be wrong in townreading him again incorrectly for the third game and wanted to actively do more there after hitting a red flip. i havent had a great excuse to move jalmont out of null all game, but i seem to differ because people find his recent posts towny + afairys more scummy even tho i think its more of the converse ftr
 
Did this game have a n0? like did scum get to rolecop before day 1 or did it just start on day 1

I assume the latter but I vaguely remember a game somewhere that had a n0 and i just want to make sure it's not a thing

like, if you think the neon votes look bad, it can't be because they knew his role, so do you think that because CK is mafia that people were trying to save? but then you don't have CK in your scum pile?
bluedoom said:
long story short the neon votes look bad but think in vaccuum it would be harder to justify a scumread just off of that
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apricity said:
Did this game have a n0? like did scum get to rolecop before day 1 or did it just start on day 1

I assume the latter but I vaguely remember a game somewhere that had a n0 and i just want to make sure it's not a thing

like, if you think the neon votes look bad, it can't be because they knew his role, so do you think that because CK is mafia that people were trying to save? but then you don't have CK in your scum pile?
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Game started on D1.

The bold is what I'm deliberating on, been having a back and forth with nuxl on that the last few pages. But the thing that initially made me feel off about the wagon wasn't even like, trying to save CK or anything, just, the reasons for voting Neon didn't feel genuine when I know that at least 3 voters(jalmont,tommy, a fairy) have given him a pass for the same behaviour in previous games. Like nothing he did in this game was different from his town range in previous games(which is really just posting spreadsheets and trolling) so yeah.
 
JALMONT said:
don't mind me i'm letting you guys cook

ironically this would be a sick line of play for me if i was mafia but i'm not. i'd probably scumread myself honestly
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Hi Jalmont!

I hope you're doing well. It's great to play with you again.

Are you letting us cook as a courtesy to us? If so, I appreciate it, but I would actually much prefer your help in catching me up on the game. Specifically I couldn't understand what your train of thought was around page 71. Because you said the flander vote was pointless (which I actually really agree with -- not just because it's my slot, but because I don't think this is a good time to blast into the nulls). But then you voted for flander. And then you said you don't understand what info the flander wagon would give. And then you asked for other people to vote -- which I agree with because we need votes for informaiton and to exert the only power town have over the mafia, but voting a guy who hasn't been around for a week seems to me like barely voting at all
 
M2H said:
i am once again waiting in case there are questions for me

time for a new avatar imo
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Could you give me a list of the people you think are too low information to sort? I get the sense that everyone thinks there's a whole bunch of nulls this game but I actually think it's quite manageable -- that list right now is like lechen, chickening, i don't even know who else I'd include
 
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