NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

apricity said:
like i think it's fucking wack that it's day 3 and realiti is in the "meh, could be scum ¯\(ツ)/¯" pile and i hear ZERO alarm bells about it, but it's odd that you and AG are pointing to NE's case like some kind of god bible when in reality it's the kind of post that i'll write up about a guy i want to vote out, realize my reasons aren't that strong, and then i'll either delete the draft or just post it for towncred
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eh tbh im kinda skimming unless im hard iso'ing somebody
 
M2H said:
eh tbh im kinda skimming unless im hard iso'ing somebody
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hi i love the honesty, i was actually looking for a real answer to this though:
apricity said:
Is there a reason that both you and NE deliberately ignored his post immediately after that where he talks about not wanting to make a level 1 read on you?

realiti

NOC Post in thread 'Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win'

Everybody else I have as a small townlean or don't feel that strongly about. Will finish this list at a later time. The only exception is M2H, who's a capable player that I don't have much experience with, so I will think more about him instead of making a level 1 read.
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apricity said:
OK

how do you plan on helping your alignment win the game?

is the plan to find a guy whose alignment you trust and then sheep them, or do you currently have any reads with strong convictions (doesn't sound like it from #1834), or what's going on
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JALMONT's slot feels weird here, doesn't play like he did in other games I played with him
Don't like doom's slot because it's extremely easy to throw shade on me like he did but he should know better imo
 
I was simply tacking on the NE case as an additional reason, maybe more because I was proud of NE for putting together what appeared to be a decent case and yes on a gut level it did seem strange for Realiti to not even mention me in the reads list when I know I've heard my name from Realiti several times, probably more from them than anybody else.
 
Nuxl said:
first 4, idk about the rest, skipper is probably closest, ag maybe

i think tommy can get really close
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skippergamez said:
lowkey this makes me want to vote CK just to test this theory out (ig the NE vote would work too).

Ig I should make a #readslist

Townlean:

Nuxl and a fairy: both these slots feel very towny right now. I think they both seem to be assuming the town guiders but not town leaders. However, neither seem to have a definite view on anything other than voting out Neon d1, who was a town PR so…

Duskfall98: Ok so I highly, highly doubt scum!Tommy would allow his teammates to be quiet if he wasn’t trying to control the thread. So unless someone like a fairy or Nuxl is mafia thread leader with him in scumchat, I think he’s town. Even then, he would try to contribute to the mafia manipulation.

des121: yeah so the Bunyip situation pretty much confirms this slot

Ehmcee: similar to above also neither of them (pulsar/Ehmcee) have acted out of character from their townmeta.

realiti: I feel that realiti’s two metas are pretty distinctive, and this is solidly in their townmeta. I feel like scum!realiti is pretty assertive in the few times they are in thread. But in this game I feel like even though they pop in and out, they are productive and pushing convos rather than agendas.

JALMONT: I think his d1 posting is outrageous enough to place him in townlean

Small Townlean:

Flandrs: this is solely on d1, I thought his posting matched his character, but now he’s completely absent so I doubt he would be scum now?

Null: DBD (initially scum but posting has been better but connected to my scumleans), bluedoom, Alice Kazumi, Lechen, thechickening

Scumlean:

M2H: At first I was pretty #omgus on their slot; however, their posting didn’t get worse but didn’t get better. I still feel like they are moreso agenda posting than solve posting. But this is my smallest scumreads.

Aura Guardian: ok so his popins felt really scummy and I think some of his reads feel questionable.

CK: The main reason my scumlean has solidified is their unvote off HyHy to “produce more discussion” (in scumchat). And then put his vote back on during a dead thread. I feel like this was protection in case smogon town actually tried to study votecount and see oh wait CK is town he voted HyHy when in reality he was trying to maybe turn the tide against the wagon on HyHy.

NE: I don’t like his posting. Also, CK has repeatedly townread him, AG has popped in with him. I feel like his scum relations are really strong.
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sorry i went back to check who was voting NE because i was thinking that the case feels like a towny thing to try for even if i thought the logic didn't hold water, and i realized skip was voting NE

This readlist made it into your towncore M2H really?
 
M2H said:
I was simply tacking on the NE case as an additional reason, maybe more because I was proud of NE for putting together what appeared to be a decent case and yes on a gut level it did seem strange for Realiti to not even mention me in the reads list when I know I've heard my name from Realiti several times, probably more from them than anybody else.
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i mean yes i am currently voting realiti
 
apricity said:
sorry i went back to check who was voting NE because i was thinking that the case feels like a towny thing to try for even if i thought the logic didn't hold water, and i realized skip was voting NE

This readlist made it into your towncore M2H really?
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I'm not town leaning skipper for his brilliant analysis. It's mostly on tone. And the fact that I'm getting deja vu from a previous game I mislynched him.
 
Lechen said:
re: doom I just found it suspicious that he scumreads me for activity. While I do prefer playing town over mafia usually, in this game with my current availability I can't spend much time solving as I spend most of my free time to plan for EIPP (which he knows I'm playing in), and the rest of my free time is when I'm commuting/during the night, which I use to play Iron Emblem, a Fire Emblem hack (which he also knows I'm playing because we talk about it lol
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Aura Guardian in response to your question
 
for the record if skipper or ck flip scum I'm honestly looking at fairy again. A solve like literally realiti/flandrs/skipper/ck/fairy makes some intuitive sense to me.
 
It seems to me that you are alluding to the game I shot you as town and we lost off that. I really don't know why you are doing that. For one, I remember you saying that I did just as well in that game as I had in any previous game as town. I would like to believe that that was not an insult, so I had assumed it wasn't a sore point that I had shot you there. For two, that was a game that you were playing particularly badly because it wasn't a serious game for you, so there would be no reason for me to TR you there. Here, instead of looking at my statement as me walking back my possible solve because it doesn't really make sense for Skipper/CK/Realiti to TMI your slot (you don't really seem particularly scummy at this stage), it seems like you are trying to goad me into pushing you when I don't believe that I've had a pattern of being unfair to you in the past.
 
apricity said:
OK. I hope that me subbing in to the slot was a pleasant outcome for you.

Could you help sell me on nuxl's alignment? Is it from day 1?
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I don't think I'm really sold on anyone, but I don't think it's very useful deciding to go after Nuxl right now if you thought he was mafia. I think that's the sort of thing that will reveal itself over time so I'm not too worried (ok yea, mafia nuxl getting ignored late game would not surprise me at all so maybe i should be worried). perhaps i'm speaking hubristically but i'm way more worried about ppl i struggle to read like mafia dusk/a fairy.or even like idk dbd and NE.

yes, i thought nuxl was town on day 1 and this burst of activity has sold me harder on that. i see the relative "dead" period as a good opportunity for a stronger player to try and take control of the narrative so for me that leans town on them.
 
Lechen said:
JALMONT's slot feels weird here, doesn't play like he did in other games I played with him
Don't like doom's slot because it's extremely easy to throw shade on me like he did but he should know better imo
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but you won't vote either of us? please vote someone by the time i wake up and read this thread or else >:|
 
Aura Guardian said:
Okay. I can definitely see that. Adding doom as a scumlean to my personal list.
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Aura Guardian said:
I can see it. Not liking a slot doesn't mean definitely vote it. Realiti is my current vote, but Crreamy and des are my biggest two bad vibes right now.
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Kinda paranoid that these posts are trying to pocket me but iirc AG, in AP's game, gave off similar sheepy vibes to some extent when he was town so maybe this is his meta.
 
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