NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

Rough readslist from me here, not too confident on bottom section so I’d want to focus on sorting things out down there.

Warning, wallpost coming!


Towncore:



A Fairy (Villagery d2 with solid in-depth analysis and good vibes, scrappy/blunt if that’s a way to describe it in a villagery way, I also don’t think W!Fairy would fake that derp given the context asw)



Des (Following their town meta, actively engaged in the thread and not afraid to throw out opinions, consistent effort to ask probing, solving questions, likely way out of wolfrange. Concerns with them echoing consensus make some sense but the way they get there is genuine and more likely a result of them just being stumped)



Nuxl (Solid d1 with good solving analysis, villagery reaction tests and makes some reads that W!Nuxl absolutely doesn’t need to make, e.g. TRing me EOD. Also locktowned by AP, so I will sheep his legacy bc it is likely why scum killed him)



JALMONT (Bold posting d1 which does nothing but attract attention if a wolf, and comes from a belief they strongly hold. Villagery d2, I liked p#1,220 and p#1,215 in particular, strong analysis and solving effort despite a threadstate where they could easily coast)



Townleans:



M2H (Hyperfocus on stuff like RWSTFO nonsense and crunching teams is genuine and at least >randtown. Solid solving process and effort, and reads that seem unlikely to come from a wolf, such as p#1,210 and p#1,038. Has things I disagree with them on, such as the NE scumread but I don’t think that ever outweighs my macro read on them)



NightEmerald (Inactive slot but with reasons so that’s null. Their wallposts are all good analysis, NE can do this as a wolf but the difference I’ve noticed is that he seems to be moreso zeroing in on particular players and solving them, whereas his wolfier wallposts are more like word vomit on the entire PL and agendad in some way. I don’t really see that here, he seems more open-minded and makes some reads that he could beneficially avoid as a wolf or hints at like some villagery self doubt mid-posting such as in p#1,483 where they start out with Nuxl posting d2 feeling contrived then proceeding to just town him anyways, and following his fairy townread up with some concerns he has. This reads to me as a villager weighing both sides and being cautious rather than hedgyness imo.)



Realiti (Their earlier solving was decent, but I rly like their pop-in d2 because the analysis is pretty well put together yet simultaneously kinda disagreeable in a way that makes me think genuine villageriness rather than powering an agenda or LAMIST posting.)



Duskfall98 (Engaged d1, has a few reads e.g. the read on me that don’t really look agendad and I can see this slot just being a demotivated villager coming into d2, though there are some valid concerns with the way they go around neon and how they kinda just stop playing d2)



DBD (Tunnel on me is questionable but the way his wolf radar seems to just ping and go “CK WOLF HOLY SHIT!” at some of my posts even after catching heat for doing so makes me believe it is more likely to just be a villager confident in their read and running me down than a wolf. That being said, he doesn’t really do much outside of that. Maybe looking better recently though?)



Bluedoom (Some of his reads are def ??? Imo, but in a sense it could be villagery because he’s bold enough to pursure them. From what I know of him from team galactic it isn’t too abnormal for him to play the game like this. He does feel like he’s putting forth some effort to solve his scumreads so I don’t exactly think his posts are agendad even if the reads themselves I don’t agree with at all. Likely unpaired with Lechen, probably town if Lechen flips scum)



Skippergamez (Some of his posts feel pretty meh early on and his reads kinda come out of nowhere without much elaboration. However I do kinda get a sense that he’s trying to solve the game, and I doubt he is paired with AG/Lechen, so he can hang in my TLs for now)



Scumleans:



Aura Guardian (Some odd reads that I don’t really understand the process behind if it exists, whack popin EOD1, opportunistic looking pushes that he doesn’t really actually try to solve, particularly myself and DBD. He has some posts like the thing about hypoing roles and towning IN, but this isn’t rly clearing because it can just be fabricated for towncred, particularly the IN white knight because he was going over anyways, P#1095 makes it read like a scum trying to look more correct than the villagers on neon wagon)



Lechen (Inactive slot. Some of his reads stand out as kinda not really thought through, no offense, and opportunistic, such as the way he hops on me/skip. Brings up that he doesn’t like my wagon, then says he wants to vote between me/skip, then votes HH and dips which is ??? And reads as not really caring for a v/v wagon happening d1. Trying to unpair me/skip could potentially be towny but not following it up with a vote on either of us has me skeptical. Doesn’t do much elsewhere. Likely unpaired with bluedoom, probably town if bluedoom flips scum.)



Chickening (Inactive slot. A lot of their posts are like just words that don’t really lead anywhere or seems very noncommital in a way that reads like a wolf struggling to keep up with posting, e.g. P#741 or P#746. An argument could be made that this is a villager because of how non-consensus the posts are, but its done in such a way that it looks fabricated and noncommital so I don’t think that read holds. If anything, this slot also kinda just gets iced out by POE)



Flandrs (Has a few tls put out early on but they feel pretty noncommital and nothingburger he doesn’t really make much of an effort to defend them, then he just dips? The reads aren’t awful and I actually agree with a few but they aren’t really leveraged if that makes sense. Vote on AG could be unpairing, but it’s kinda just there in a way that could easily be distancing especially with his reaction to later AG votes)



Ehmcee (Sub in for pulsar slot, who kinda didn’t do much aside from plop a vote on top wagon and dip. Pops in with a readslist unelaborated that seems to be going along with threadstate and I’m not really digging it tbh. With this being a freshly subbed in slot I will give it some grace, but my POE has it as a wolf and the slot he subbed in for wasn’t one I liked.)
Bumping this post

If you’re gonna try and solve me based on where my reads are, look here. In hindsight (and a tad bit of NE sheeping) some of realiti’s reads were questionable and I’m not super confident in them being town, but otherwise not much has changed.
 
I’m inclined to actually think if realiti is maf they TMI’d flandrs town rather than it being pairing, flandrs was in a struggling thread position and inactive but not really a priority vote so I think a maf team there wouldn’t decide to hard defend him and risk bavingh it stand out as paired
 
The second anyone ever says they aren’t paired it’s like ok if you’ve thought about this, it’s obviously not that relevant anymore lmao

Pairing reads before either have flipped are usually bad anyways
Making unpair reads preflip is a bad habit of mine, but I do think there are some places where u can look and just see that a team with some players together just does not make sense
 
oh my god are you serious

do you think also that if someone has 5 scrumreads or 3 scumreads that they think the op is lying abt how many scum there are
I’m kinda finding a fairy town in this whole interaction with creamy the frustration feels really (ignoring she’s also speaking facts but could do that as either alignment)
 
TOWNCORE
Nuxl:
Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

des: Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

TOWNLEAN
JALMONT:
Hard to see why scum!JALMONT would engage so heavily D2 in a dead thread, his posts seem to come from genuine thought and curiosity

Skipper: I’ve played with both town!Skipper & mafia!Skipper, his playstyle was drastically different between alignments and I correctly read him both times. He normally dodges the thread as scum and is sporadic as town, IMO he is strongly in his town meta this game

Flandrs: Good D1 posting IMO, strong thread presence when he was active. Liked his initiative and the interaction with JALMONT (don’t see why you’d antagonize him as town). Pretty blunt and to-the-point posting, which I associate more with town than scum (who normally try to word things in non-committal manners). However, he is below JALMONT and skipper because I don’t know his meta and he doesn’t have many reads.

SCUMLEAN
Duskfall98:
I liked his earlier posts where he was casually tossing out town reads, thought that he wasn't forcing an agenda which I associate with his scum play. But I don’t like his push on Neon, it comes out of nowhere during a lull in the thread. Neon is a sporadic player and it’s hard to see why Tommy would pop in and go “THIS is the one scum read I have,” especially when he knows about Neon’s history. I understand the other Neon voters who couldn't think of better options, but Tommy's push seems opportunistic. Also don’t like his D2 entrance, he says he’s tilted but just waves off the vote and disappears - feels like he’s trying to pretend to be annoyed but doesn’t actually care.

DbD: Early CK tunnel D1 was fine, but then CK continues to flood the thread and DbD doesn’t re-evaluate the slot or interact with her posts. Seems like a lazy scumread made to avoid giving actual reads - I do this a lot as scum as well

Lechen: Don’t like his D1 progression, meh entrance -> scum reading two easy targets. Ironically I can apply his scumread on skipper to Lechen himself, seems like he’s throwing shade that doesn’t hurt his rep. Backtracking on the CK vote later was pretty towny IMO, but he goes back to the CK vote D2 which I found confusing.

SCUMCORE
Not enough happening to have someone here. This is my new term for players that I end up tunneling.
What’s hard to feel about des content to you?
 
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