NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

a fairy said:
ill also be honest i am in the currnet boat where im a fan of neon as a person and want him to imrpove and do well but i also am aware that i historically have covered for him hard (see, lovers dance) so im in my overshoot-to-balance-back by expecting too much of him and then lashing out when he's just neon as usual. i dont think my behavior against neon this game is out of expectation to standard
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Yeah I’ll say personally I’m not really not a big fan of policy votes, both for sportsmanship reasons and the fact that it isn’t even real scumhunting. I had my vote there because he was a POE candidate and someone I want sorted, like I actually expected him to perform decently and when I saw his iso it just didn’t look like his towngame. No clue why bro did not claim though.
 
realiti said:
i don't post a lot but i read the thread on my phone a lot (lurking is a lot less mental energy to devote) and their rate of liveposting + unfiltered interactions (no M2H, i did not use ChatGPT, I just can't think of better words sometimes, i plead the fifth) + lack of self-consciousness checks out as town

most new mafia players are worried about being caught or dragging down their team
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neon is not a new mafia player btw, but i just disagree and i think its a fair point to disagree on and i think the issues you have with me you are just putting on me conveniently rather than other people like jalmont or a fairy it feels like i was the guy you decided to blame, and it feels like that was conveniently after i was afk

and you still havent spoke about why des is town
 
realiti said:
whats your read on skipper. remember that game where you and skipper were mafia? its like night and day no
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maf skipper absolutely doesn't swing for the fences yeah, but skip's also not been able to play for a hot sec so im hesitant to go, "this is locktown" in my brain. but i like a skip that's actually got thread presence and is making reads/pushing back against stuff he doesn't like. doenst strike me as scummy behavior from a meta skip pov, agree
 
Duskfall98 said:
neon is not a new mafia player btw, but i just disagree and i think its a fair point to disagree on and i think the issues you have with me you are just putting on me conveniently rather than other people like jalmont or a fairy it feels like i was the guy you decided to blame, and it feels like that was conveniently after i was afk

and you still havent spoke about why des is town
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new mafia player = referring to des

if i wanted to push an afk player as scum i have 10 better options to pick

i hold you more accountable bc i think pushing an opportunistic vote aligns with your scum meta whereas i think jalmont and fairy are harder reads for me+ have more meaningful content that i've read (in jalmont's case)
 
Honestly from their exchanges I'm getting the feeling that both Skip and NE are town.
Duskfall98 said:
also neon has a history of not really trying to win in the endgame, where he always makes it as town - so I voted there as an “it’s a no loss play because we either alignment he doesn’t help town”, didn’t really expect him to just not claim after Eli begging him to as town pr when he’s dying
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So the same reasoning as jalmont


Tommy is coming back strong in page 82
CrreamyKitty said:
Alice gets townie brownie points for pure vibes rn, she doesn’t seem to have much of an agenda either imo
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brownies! :blobtriumph:
 
a fairy said:
maf skipper absolutely doesn't swing for the fences yeah, but skip's also not been able to play for a hot sec so im hesitant to go, "this is locktown" in my brain. but i like a skip that's actually got thread presence and is making reads/pushing back against stuff he doesn't like. doenst strike me as scummy behavior from a meta skip pov, agree
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ugh i can't find the game but Nuxl i had a game where skipper + fairy were scum, i hard scumread skipper the whole game and i got voted out and he won as scum, he dodged the thread the entire game
 
a fairy said:
maf skipper absolutely doesn't swing for the fences yeah, but skip's also not been able to play for a hot sec so im hesitant to go, "this is locktown" in my brain. but i like a skip that's actually got thread presence and is making reads/pushing back against stuff he doesn't like. doenst strike me as scummy behavior from a meta skip pov, agree
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i am townreading how hard skipper is going in on his opinions
 
realiti said:
new mafia player = referring to des

if i wanted to push an afk player as scum i have 10 better options to pick

i hold you more accountable bc i think pushing an opportunistic vote aligns with your scum meta whereas i think jalmont and fairy are harder reads for me+ have more meaningful content that i've read (in jalmont's case)
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but des isnt even committing to that many opininos thjey are just asking questions that tend to not even be that specific right?
 
bluedoom said:
could you elaborate on the skip and NE town thing? what makes you think its a t/t interaction?
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To me they are creating an scenario where if one of them flips town the other would be suspect, they could have stopped it but they reignite it post after post. The alternative is S/S but it doesn't make sense with this threadstate.
 
Alice Kazumi said:
I don't think mafia apricity subs into the game and is that proactive in a threadstate that benefits mafia. The risk of him dying for flandrs being afk is not that high, especially since people would likely have not voted him inmediately as a sub. I doubt reviving the thread is worth it.

D2-D3 is a bit off I agree. He goes lower on the list to me but I'd say still a bit above null.


Scumreading des is definitely not sheepy, quite the opposite because she is townread by most.

As I said earlier I think your scumreads are mostly agreeable because there is a sentiment that scum is among inactives. Not sure about AG being mafia.
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actually I have the opposite take where I think the reason for voting neon is BS but his D2-D3 has been pretty good and what I expect from his town self. Wanna sell me your worldview atm?
 
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