NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

apricity said:
Whose reads did you trust? Who are your towns actually
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let's full send this one shall we (update: half send because i nodded off twice writimg this)

a fairy - null. in a similar vein to des, present, but it's almost like stalling in a way. i can't really think of fairy reads when i think of fairy
nuxi - town lean. felt very towny at first just because when i do think of them i can think of their reads however they lose points in my book looking at their perspective on realiti (to me the move when you don't want to quickhammer someone is to simply. hold off, not to hop on another wagon LOL)
jalmont - wolf because i truly just feel like their posting is so erratic and their focus changes a lot. like i said earlier, feels very vocal, but not necessarily helpful
alice - i want so badly to say locktown BUT the constant mindmeld comments between alice and apricity raise eyebrows for me. i personally do not feel comfortable going to anyone here and being like "yes you took the words out of my mouth!" like how do you know who you're talking to unless you're evil (this makes apricity look way worse tbh)
crreamykitty - ????? a very comfortable null because it's just polarising to me - sometimes feeling very towny and others feeling wolfy (i am actively faling asleep writing this icl if i weren't i'd give more specifics
apricity - wolf lean, but like. strong wolf lean. see alice above. what stops me from saying wolf entirely is the fact that flanders, if wolf, could have easily had their sub float among the inactives considering a lot of this game was ia early (and some still are).
ehmcee - i know people say town clear, but i say a very slight town lean. no ccs could have easily been because gun holder was killed and well. can't really talk if you're dead now, can you? i give credit to the fact that there have been no ccs, but i wouldn't say that alone clears.
aura guardian - a whole trip icl nothing from ag makes sense and i am too sleepy to try and pinpoint that so you sit in ?????? territory
bluedoom - my weakest scumlean. really with me now looking at april i'd maybe even move this to full neutral idk
des - post behaviour changing mid-thread was not what i expected. looking wolfier by the day imo, mainly chat, little substance
skipper - power role claim is interesting. i never really got the conversation on skipper anyways, so i'm glad there's more food for thought now
dead by daylight - also a ????? because i simply have not paid you attention icl i will be looking at you tomorrow (not in a side eye type thing but i feel like i don't know you sometimes)
lechen - wolfy wolf mcwolferton for the sheer fact that being inactive helps maf atp and when i think of silence i think lechen (or simon and garfunkel if you're feeling funny)
nightemerald - town lean again. was very useful in solving realiti's case imo and credit is given where credit is due in this household
 
you know i didn’t actually see this until I started isoing but something irks me about lechens first townreads being last page and he’s only had scumreads so far

Yet another person in the poe who’s a giga ck hater
 
bluedoom said:
ok, can you give me a reads list of everyone in the game atm?
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sure
1. a fairy- have not played with af before, giving off good vibes esp recent anti-massclaim sentiment seems pro town. townlean
2. Nuxl- have been contributing to solving consistently through the game, not wanting to hammer is pro town, notably wasn't on realiti wagon but wasn't on the main cw though. Not killed by mafia is sus but could be WIFOM bunyip shit. something worse analysing is probably #2831 where he realised ehmcee could have gotten the gun via ap death before any of us did, but brushed it aside. townread
4. JALMONT- scumleaning himself, posts feel weird compared to other games, and he just feels like he is trying too hard to seem towny and says he is playing poorly possibly to hide agenda. scumread
5. Alice Kazumi- good vibes, good contributions to solving on #2934 and #2978, townread
6. CrreamyKitty- null slot, if skipper flips red this slot might be sus because i feel like d1 ck and skipper interaction is textbook distancing
7. apricity- subbed in, and voted
8. Ehmcee- townread. gun holder. self explanatory, only way hes not town is if ap had gun, which is unlikely. the only question is why shoot tommy and not me/chickening/dbd the poe slots. does a sub ever do a heroshoot as town?
9. Aura Guardian- mixed. his progression on doom on #1997 is weird and it+#1998 gives weird vibes that feel like pocketing.
11. bluedoom- knows why I am busy and am trying to throw shade on me without hurting his towncred. scumread
13. des121- towny vibe, seems like every other des game ngl. sadly, i read her as mixed because if she or skipper isn't mafia realiti could have been saved by mafia being on counterwagon
14. skippergamez- skipper is weird because if he or des isn't mafia realiti could have been saved which makes his slot a lot more sus. town pr claim si interesting tho. mixed
15. Dead by Daylight- his posts feel like a nothingburger i do not remember any of his posts lmao
16. Lechen- locktown
18. NightEmerald- was the counterwagon to realiti and it didn't feel like s/s. would townread if he actually made a post today. townlean
21. thechickening- similar to dbd, posts have literally no content
 
JALMONT said:
I’m off Realiti even though without usernames I would probably be on him because for me his scum game is predicated on pushing easy votes and not really engaging in the game except on a surface level
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This is like a really stark thing to mention about realiti in a page where nobody’s really talking about him

I don’t actually know what to think about this but I’m quoting it so I can jump to it later
 
thechickening said:
let's full send this one shall we (update: half send because i nodded off twice writimg this)

a fairy - null. in a similar vein to des, present, but it's almost like stalling in a way. i can't really think of fairy reads when i think of fairy
nuxi - town lean. felt very towny at first just because when i do think of them i can think of their reads however they lose points in my book looking at their perspective on realiti (to me the move when you don't want to quickhammer someone is to simply. hold off, not to hop on another wagon LOL)
jalmont - wolf because i truly just feel like their posting is so erratic and their focus changes a lot. like i said earlier, feels very vocal, but not necessarily helpful
alice - i want so badly to say locktown BUT the constant mindmeld comments between alice and apricity raise eyebrows for me. i personally do not feel comfortable going to anyone here and being like "yes you took the words out of my mouth!" like how do you know who you're talking to unless you're evil (this makes apricity look way worse tbh)
crreamykitty - ????? a very comfortable null because it's just polarising to me - sometimes feeling very towny and others feeling wolfy (i am actively faling asleep writing this icl if i weren't i'd give more specifics
apricity - wolf lean, but like. strong wolf lean. see alice above. what stops me from saying wolf entirely is the fact that flanders, if wolf, could have easily had their sub float among the inactives considering a lot of this game was ia early (and some still are).
ehmcee - i know people say town clear, but i say a very slight town lean. no ccs could have easily been because gun holder was killed and well. can't really talk if you're dead now, can you? i give credit to the fact that there have been no ccs, but i wouldn't say that alone clears.
aura guardian - a whole trip icl nothing from ag makes sense and i am too sleepy to try and pinpoint that so you sit in ?????? territory
bluedoom - my weakest scumlean. really with me now looking at april i'd maybe even move this to full neutral idk
des - post behaviour changing mid-thread was not what i expected. looking wolfier by the day imo, mainly chat, little substance
skipper - power role claim is interesting. i never really got the conversation on skipper anyways, so i'm glad there's more food for thought now
dead by daylight - also a ????? because i simply have not paid you attention icl i will be looking at you tomorrow (not in a side eye type thing but i feel like i don't know you sometimes)
lechen - wolfy wolf mcwolferton for the sheer fact that being inactive helps maf atp and when i think of silence i think lechen (or simon and garfunkel if you're feeling funny)
nightemerald - town lean again. was very useful in solving realiti's case imo and credit is given where credit is due in this household
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weird progression on doom and instantly joining his attack plan on me. changing my opinion to a scumlean (this may be OMGUS)
 
Celever said:
End of Day Votecount

ImaginaryNeon (5): JALMONT, des121, Duskfall98, a fairy, Nuxl
CrreamyKitty (3): Dead by Daylight, skippergamez, pulsar512b
Dead by Daylight (2): HydrogenHydreigon, NightEmerald
Aura Guardian (1): StupidFlandrs48
M2H (2): realiti, Aura Guardian
NightEmerald (2): Bluedoom, M2H
skippergamez (1): AngryPidgeon
pulsar512b (1): CrreamyKitty

Not Voting (4): ImaginaryNeon, Alice Kazumi, thechickening, Lechen
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I'm trying so hard to not tin foil but man, it is just so bizarre that it feels like the same group of nulls are all saying each other dude is mafia. we seen to have a pretty set group of towns and no one is really trying to expand the vote pool beyond that.

now that we've gotten pretty good participation from everyone i hope those smarter than me can make sense of all this.
Aura Guardian said:
Am I to understand the third list is your scumreads? I firmly disagree with that. The first two in your final list, I have as Null, and the next two I regard as towny. I also regard skip as scummy. Regarding Ehmcee's claim of the gun and only being a "gun to your head" thing... well.

As I was typing this, it crossed from just disagreeing to this:
##Unvote
##Vote: JALMONT
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so i went from being town for you to then posting this to being a priority vote? is that a correct interpretation of your thoughts today?
 
ok this is another point of “ags votes are actually so incredibly wack”

If he’s on a team with scum

1. voted with his partner on a vanity m2h wagon scum knows isn’t going over eod1
2. 7 minutes after the NE case btw he says… “yk…. NE ur fucking right WOW” and puts THAT SAME PARTNERS wagon at 2 sod3
3. votes (difference check assumption ftr) DBD and CK for completely bogus reasons first two pages and then does it again start of day 2, making no further progress
 
Nuxl said:
this would be hella suspicious if no scum was on a top wagon
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I mean if you are town, this looks pretty ok for CK no?

I think the caveat for day 1 is I'm not convinced CK was ever a really serious vote. But then again, maybe that's another plus point for CK given that it wasn't like people were coming out of the woods to save him (except maybe you and AF? idk).

there's probably 1/2 scum in the non voters, purely based on votes probably AG or doom? but we aren't doing doom today or even tomorrow probably.
 
JALMONT said:
I mean if you are town, this looks pretty ok for CK no?

I think the caveat for day 1 is I'm not convinced CK was ever a really serious vote. But then again, maybe that's another plus point for CK given that it wasn't like people were coming out of the woods to save him (except maybe you and AF? idk).

there's probably 1/2 scum in the non voters, purely based on votes probably AG or doom? but we aren't doing doom today or even tomorrow probably.
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uh yeah not about ck himself

more of a shrug on “no way all scum is positioned on the offwagons” that day right, makes me feel worse about dbd
 
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