NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win

I think dbd is more of a positional hit anyway, the name thing partly confbiased my vote there anyway. Zukos interactions aren’t clearing anyway - they’re a little weird, but it’s definitely more of a fumble from zukos end

but basically when zuko votes realiti they
1. open their post by saying yes im zuko btw!

(and this is the final thing I’m gonna harp on this point btw, but zuko mentions today that they cleared up their name because they didn’t know if realiti or Tommy knew they were chickening, which is weird BECAUSE realiti literally said he knew they were from bigvivor, which predicates that it implies they didn’t realize realiti cleared up how he knew zuko at all, which means they aren’t reading his posts, which begets the question as to why zuko is voting someone who they haven’t read the posts of)

2. votes realiti but doesn’t bold their vote

3. realiti asks them why

one hour passes

4. they just randomly show up to bold their vote on realiti LOL
 
jalmont/chickening have a lot of posts focusing on each other early on - chickening kinda like sets up to vote jalmont after realiti + jalmont just randomly goes after them during the bell ringer day after hitting ImaginaryNeon, but then does his weird wtf Flanders into his barf realiti positioning d3

its kinda weird, thiiiink if both were in a scum team with realiti thechickening is not the person who places realiti to L-1 and instead jalmont is the one being set up to go far
ok i didn't read all of d1
 
(305) skipper seems town, he refuses to interact with the thread as scum in my past games with him - if his meta has changed pls tell me

Don't really have strong reads & am unfamiliar with most ppl's meta, but i think m2h's skipper read sucks and he's said a whole bunch of nothing

vote m2h
(317) IMO nuxl duskfall98 and flandrs are town, but why do you think pulsar and m2h are town? i think pulsar is null and m2h's posting has not been great. i don't really have an opinion on lechen atm

fairy has mastered the art of doing nothing n1 so im also putting them as a null
(339) nuxl duskfall98 skipper Flandrs AP townleanm2h scumleandon’t feel strongly about anyone else. popcorn to you, what are your reads?
(351) (replying to des) don't really have a strong opinion, you could be a town newbie trying to get involved in the game or mafia who can't think of content so you ask others for reads instead of making your own. so i'd say null even if you aren't confident in your reads, voicing any thoughts about other players would help me read your slot
(496) skipper is in his town meta atm, he interacts a lot more with people and has a history of scumreading people who scumread him as town...would not recommend voting this slot today
(500) (replying to nuxl about ck) yeah i second this

if two people scumread you i don't know why your first instinct would be to assume they're town, if you're town
(1171) ##Vote hydroall votes off skipepr pls that guy is most likely town
(1528) TOWNCORE
Nuxl:
Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

des: Very difficult to fake this level of engagement and solving attempt as scum

TOWNLEAN
JALMONT:
Hard to see why scum!JALMONT would engage so heavily D2 in a dead thread, his posts seem to come from genuine thought and curiosity

Skipper: I’ve played with both town!Skipper & mafia!Skipper, his playstyle was drastically different between alignments and I correctly read him both times. He normally dodges the thread as scum and is sporadic as town, IMO he is strongly in his town meta this game

Flandrs: Good D1 posting IMO, strong thread presence when he was active. Liked his initiative and the interaction with JALMONT (don’t see why you’d antagonize him as town). Pretty blunt and to-the-point posting, which I associate more with town than scum (who normally try to word things in non-committal manners). However, he is below JALMONT and skipper because I don’t know his meta and he doesn’t have many reads.

SCUMLEAN
Duskfall98:
I liked his earlier posts where he was casually tossing out town reads, thought that he wasn't forcing an agenda which I associate with his scum play. But I don’t like his push on Neon, it comes out of nowhere during a lull in the thread. Neon is a sporadic player and it’s hard to see why Tommy would pop in and go “THIS is the one scum read I have,” especially when he knows about Neon’s history. I understand the other Neon voters who couldn't think of better options, but Tommy's push seems opportunistic. Also don’t like his D2 entrance, he says he’s tilted but just waves off the vote and disappears - feels like he’s trying to pretend to be annoyed but doesn’t actually care.

DbD: Early CK tunnel D1 was fine, but then CK continues to flood the thread and DbD doesn’t re-evaluate the slot or interact with her posts. Seems like a lazy scumread made to avoid giving actual reads - I do this a lot as scum as well

Lechen: Don’t like his D1 progression, meh entrance -> scum reading two easy targets. Ironically I can apply his scumread on skipper to Lechen himself, seems like he’s throwing shade that doesn’t hurt his rep. Backtracking on the CK vote later was pretty towny IMO, but he goes back to the CK vote D2 which I found confusing.

SCUMCORE
Not enough happening to have someone here. This is my new term for players that I end up tunneling.
(1699) was working tonight and have church -> work tomorrow, so I can't really play until monday. sorry!##vote Duskfall98
(1701) ##vote Aura Guardian
So before he was a wagon he had dbd and lechen as scumlean then voted tommy (who was also scumlean for him) but completely avoided voting lechen and dbd. Instead went for ag after changing his mind almost inmediately on tommy when AG wasn't even mentioned in his readlist. :blobthinking:

The focus on skip is definitely weird as well but skip wasn't in a real danger at the time so it was not a case of him defending mafia skip.
 
cos that's how you approach POEs right

you have obvscum which you legit just leave, because while the people who put together the POE are alive u need to do all the hard lynches who might talk themselves out of it after

Yeah my other problem is that my worldbuilding relies on, what I basically think of as, [dbd/ck] being one slot and if dbd is a miss, lechen is def a hit, but could still be a hit anyway, and then [thechickening/jalmont] seeming like incredibly suspicious partners

and if dbd/thechickening are both misses, then ck/jalmont/lechen are like my next look for hits then you need to find the deep which maybe you don’t have enough for
 
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