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NOC Low Power Mafia -- Mafia Win
- Thread starter Celever
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d1
ImaginaryNeon (5): JALMONT, des121, Duskfall98, a fairy, Nuxl
CrreamyKitty (3): Dead by Daylight, skippergamez, pulsar512b
Dead by Daylight (2): HydrogenHydreigon, NightEmerald
Aura Guardian (1): StupidFlandrs48
M2H (2): realiti, Aura Guardian
NightEmerald (2): Bluedoom, M2H
skippergamez (1): AngryPidgeon
pulsar512b (1): CrreamyKitty
Not Voting (4): ImaginaryNeon, Alice Kazumi, thechickening, Lechen
what's interesting about day 1 is we basically know there was no mafia wagon except maybe pulsar if you tinfoil like me that ehmcee might be mafia. the fact that these wagons are all town suggests pretty disjointed mafia. af looks better because presumably there's very little reason to take on the "risk" of voting someone they would have known to be town.
i want to give alice a pass for not voting but honestly i kind of wonder if one mafia being afk meant that they couldn't really coordinate too hard? but with the wagons as they were there was no need to.
d2 was hyhy so nothing. maybe could look at who voted hyhy fast but i dont really want to research that too much
d3
Votecount 3.7
realiti (7): NightEmerald, Aura Guardian, M2H, a fairy, thechickening, apricity, Alice Kazumi
NightEmerald (4): skippergamez, des121, Duskfall98, realiti
Dead by Daylight (3): bluedoom, Nuxl, JALMONT
Ehmcee (1): CrreamyKitty
CrreamyKitty (1): Dead by Daylight
Duskfall98 (1): Ehmcee
Not Voting (1): Lechen
bluedoom interestingly voted realiti but then after a couple of unvotes pivoted to dbd. this looks good for him imo since he easily could have just left his vote on NE and left open a possibly counterwagon to save realiti.
it's also at odds with chickening voting realiti - they certainly didn't need to give up on realiti as early as they did and wouldn't have if they didn't think they could gain some credibility bussing.
des and bluedoom can't be teammates, which, was probably not a big concern in the first place but well then.
d4
Dead By Daylight (8): Alice Kazumi, apricity, Crreamykitty, Ehmcee, JALMONT, Lechen, Nuxl, thechickening
thechickening (4): a fairy, Aura Guardian, bluedoom, Dead by Daylight
JALMONT (2): des121, Skippergamez
af only voted chickenign after hal did. so if you are convinced hal is town, then that looks an awful lot like af hedging voting chickening at a relatively safe moment.
i thougth alice was null reading dbd and had multiple other clsoer to scum reads, i forget what happened to that, i think there was a legit explanation but i cba to go back and find it again.
d5
Aura Guardian (7): apricity, Alice Kazumi, des121, CrreamyKitty, thechickening, a fairy, Ehmcee HAMMER
thechickening (3): bluedoom, Aura Guardian, JALMONT
Not Voting (3): Nuxl, Lechen, NightEmerald
alice and des votes on AG kind of came out of nowhere for me and look bad. again, if you want to tinfoil hal this is another good vote to look at given him doign a 180 and going after AG. I don't really buy that however.
ImaginaryNeon (5): JALMONT, des121, Duskfall98, a fairy, Nuxl
CrreamyKitty (3): Dead by Daylight, skippergamez, pulsar512b
Dead by Daylight (2): HydrogenHydreigon, NightEmerald
Aura Guardian (1): StupidFlandrs48
M2H (2): realiti, Aura Guardian
NightEmerald (2): Bluedoom, M2H
skippergamez (1): AngryPidgeon
pulsar512b (1): CrreamyKitty
Not Voting (4): ImaginaryNeon, Alice Kazumi, thechickening, Lechen
what's interesting about day 1 is we basically know there was no mafia wagon except maybe pulsar if you tinfoil like me that ehmcee might be mafia. the fact that these wagons are all town suggests pretty disjointed mafia. af looks better because presumably there's very little reason to take on the "risk" of voting someone they would have known to be town.
i want to give alice a pass for not voting but honestly i kind of wonder if one mafia being afk meant that they couldn't really coordinate too hard? but with the wagons as they were there was no need to.
d2 was hyhy so nothing. maybe could look at who voted hyhy fast but i dont really want to research that too much
d3
Votecount 3.7
realiti (7): NightEmerald, Aura Guardian, M2H, a fairy, thechickening, apricity, Alice Kazumi
NightEmerald (4): skippergamez, des121, Duskfall98, realiti
Dead by Daylight (3): bluedoom, Nuxl, JALMONT
Ehmcee (1): CrreamyKitty
CrreamyKitty (1): Dead by Daylight
Duskfall98 (1): Ehmcee
Not Voting (1): Lechen
bluedoom interestingly voted realiti but then after a couple of unvotes pivoted to dbd. this looks good for him imo since he easily could have just left his vote on NE and left open a possibly counterwagon to save realiti.
it's also at odds with chickening voting realiti - they certainly didn't need to give up on realiti as early as they did and wouldn't have if they didn't think they could gain some credibility bussing.
des and bluedoom can't be teammates, which, was probably not a big concern in the first place but well then.
d4
Dead By Daylight (8): Alice Kazumi, apricity, Crreamykitty, Ehmcee, JALMONT, Lechen, Nuxl, thechickening
thechickening (4): a fairy, Aura Guardian, bluedoom, Dead by Daylight
JALMONT (2): des121, Skippergamez
pretty interesting that teh wagon on chickening was pretty pure here when alice (and me) voted dbd. ehcmee then broke the tie voting dbd over chickening which is a bad look at that point given that we know mafia were definitely not trying to bus chickening.
maybe nuxl can tell me what of this post "spews"
af only voted chickenign after hal did. so if you are convinced hal is town, then that looks an awful lot like af hedging voting chickening at a relatively safe moment.
i thougth alice was null reading dbd and had multiple other clsoer to scum reads, i forget what happened to that, i think there was a legit explanation but i cba to go back and find it again.
d5
Aura Guardian (7): apricity, Alice Kazumi, des121, CrreamyKitty, thechickening, a fairy, Ehmcee HAMMER
thechickening (3): bluedoom, Aura Guardian, JALMONT
Not Voting (3): Nuxl, Lechen, NightEmerald
alice and des votes on AG kind of came out of nowhere for me and look bad. again, if you want to tinfoil hal this is another good vote to look at given him doign a 180 and going after AG. I don't really buy that however.
#freejalmont
biggest t/s jalmont/chicken argument
I think it's funny how it mentions jalmont and a fairy and not tommy who also did it and is confirmed town.
Towncore Alice is inevitable
I think I was catching up, then I got stuck in a conversation with bluedoom while I was seeing the NE-realiti stuff, decided it was good enough I sheep and voted.
So before he was a wagon he had dbd and lechen as scumlean then voted tommy (who was also scumlean for him) but completely avoided voting lechen and dbd. Instead went for ag after changing his mind almost inmediately on tommy when AG wasn't even mentioned in his readlist.
The focus on skip is definitely weird as well but skip wasn't in a real danger at the time so it was not a case of him defending mafia skip.
I isoed ag searching "dbd" and the results don't look good
A wagon looks way townier than the other, way way townier according to everyone's reads.
Could it be that both are a hit
##Unvote
##Vote a fairy
If you guys want to follow this order is fine by me
##Vote a fairy
If you guys want to follow this order is fine by me
good morning. i assume i am going over. i will be voting bluedoom who strikes me as someone going super under the radar and not getting the attention that they need, and is who i think is most likely to have been "inactive maf". i am town. have a somewhat-final thoughts on the playerlist for when i flip town so people can read em back or whatever. please god town don't throw after this. we are at the point where y'all can't make mistakes once im gone, and if maf is even barely competent (they have to be given the PL) they are about to make it a lot harder for y'all.
##Vote: bluedoom
to eli: was fun playing with you again after however long, see you in the graveyard. looking forward to seeing who the scum are and your reactions. if you live the night somehow, amazing! good luck leading town.
for jalmont: if you're scum, uh, can you TMI rq? ty. if you're town, though, man you sure don't represent it well, "don't vote me, i have something to say but only later" and then i wake up in the morning and can't even remember whatever it was you wanted to say. you're one of the most tenured players on this PL now, you've gotta be doing stuff.
to alice: if you are town, you need to be stepping up, as our solve power is about to decrease significantly assuming the Gun is still around and being used correctly (shoot jalmont, gunholder, there is no other reasonable option afaict). you've been trusted throughout the game, it's time to use that trust to put pressure on a soon-to-be-mostly-inactive (shh lechen i get it) poe. do not go gentle into the dark night.
to hal: i don't hold any animosity for you voting me. i said as much at the start of the day - we have a single misvote. im not happy we're using it up on me, given that any scummy behavior of mine being percieved is inherently weak or trying to backsolve from assuming im maf and looking for quotes that could maybe fit it when squinting (me gaming out what the mafkill/gun flip were before we knew it) flat out wrong (the bonkers claim i was never on chickening) or outright disproven without follow up (the neon vote, the realiti vote delay). i dunno. gl in the solve, friend
to ehmcee: i feel like a broken record but you need to be more active as someone who has a fuctionally all-expenses-paid free trip ticket to the vacation destiny of your dreams. you're all but townlock'd in the eyes of most, you need to be leveraging that into being a solver here. i appreciate you subbing in greatly, but please don't coast.
to bd: well. if you aren't scum, sorry friend, but i'm flipping town here and i'd hope that at least a few players heed my warnings and look into your slot more. i'd put together your defenses over the night cycle if i was town!you, because flipping town while screaming bloody murder about your name to the sky would hopefully get you some attention you'll need to defuse/defend yourself on next cycle. if you are scum, uh, get voted? ty.
to des: there is an unfortunate side effect of mafia is that you can see who mafia are scared of in most games by seeing who gets NK'd. this is why imaginaryneon survives to the endgame every time, because maf are never worried about him to the point of needing to kill him. i dont mean this as an insult or anything, but you need to start being active and not passive, and need to start solving if you are town. you needed to never become passive, frankly, but please as the words of a dying woman - please get reinvested in this game. you aren't absorbing what is happening in the thread, and that is clearly obvious, this needs to stop now if you want town to win.
to lechen: yeah, ill give you that you're getting more active, but if you're town buddy we're at a point where you can't just be defending yourself and only reacting when poked. i get that your tz and some irl stuff impacted your ability to really go back and forth with many of us in the thread, but we need all hands on deck at this point. i still think you have a decent chance at being scum, but if you're town we need more than just reactive content.
to ne: you posted a bit this cycle, i appreciate this, but shit's about to get real difficult. i don't really expect another dossier, but i won't deny that a bd iso of the remaining near-POE would be helpful for solving the rest of the game. i'd hoped we'd be able to get you to the win without needing you to pull a magic trick again, but if the POE doesn't contain all of the rest of the mafia, it might be helpful to see if there's a missing foundation in Alice's ISO somewhere or something
good luck folks. this is not going to be my last post, lord knows i like empty chatter, but this will probably be the last post of effort i make this game. y'all have this to inform your opinions once i go over as town, make it worth it.
##Vote: bluedoom
i am town
about eli: if nuxl lives, that's actually a good thing. please do not tinfoil the careful town claim as a lie if maf fsr decides to kill someone else. one user has, this entire game, been solvy and pushing the thread forward, while also having an uncountered town PR claim. please please god if he still lives do not waste even a single breath of the brain wondering if he is scum. you all do not have the time
to eli: was fun playing with you again after however long, see you in the graveyard. looking forward to seeing who the scum are and your reactions. if you live the night somehow, amazing! good luck leading town.
about jalmont: it's still hard to force opinions here. most of my thoughts are still similar, but they were always like, summarized, "what the heck is this slot?". i dunno. mathematically this slot almost has to be mafia, right? especially being higher on lechen than i was before his temper tantrum. there's just we're running out of slots to be mafia.
for jalmont: if you're scum, uh, can you TMI rq? ty. if you're town, though, man you sure don't represent it well, "don't vote me, i have something to say but only later" and then i wake up in the morning and can't even remember whatever it was you wanted to say. you're one of the most tenured players on this PL now, you've gotta be doing stuff.
about alice: if there's a deepwolf/scum that escaped POE (aka, it isnt jal+bd+[des/lechen], it's most likely to be alice. alice hasn't actually done anything other than be herself, and got townread around the PL just off of her positive reinforcement of eli+hal and hal's investment return. please watch this slot with some amount of care, it's not likely to flip scum but it's probably the most likely to outside of the POE. if we're lucky enough to get to the point where we can, consider alice.
to alice: if you are town, you need to be stepping up, as our solve power is about to decrease significantly assuming the Gun is still around and being used correctly (shoot jalmont, gunholder, there is no other reasonable option afaict). you've been trusted throughout the game, it's time to use that trust to put pressure on a soon-to-be-mostly-inactive (shh lechen i get it) poe. do not go gentle into the dark night.
about hal: alice should be poe'd before hal. if hal's scum, gg go next i guess, but the solve being hal here is so so so tinfoily as if to be nearly throwing to prefer it over the literal several members of POE plus the few non-poe that need a second look at once poe thins. im sure there are going to be players who want to give this slot a second look, that's fine, but please don't waste too much time concocting some bonkers mafteam where hal saw the NE dossier on subbing in and told realiti it was his time and promptly bussed him. honestly it doesnt sound super unreasonable? but please don't overthink shit.
to hal: i don't hold any animosity for you voting me. i said as much at the start of the day - we have a single misvote. im not happy we're using it up on me, given that any scummy behavior of mine being percieved is inherently weak or trying to backsolve from assuming im maf and looking for quotes that could maybe fit it when squinting (me gaming out what the mafkill/gun flip were before we knew it) flat out wrong (the bonkers claim i was never on chickening) or outright disproven without follow up (the neon vote, the realiti vote delay). i dunno. gl in the solve, friend
about ehmcee: please don't tinfoil ehmcee here. the maf have not had a free kill since n1, meaning they couldn't have taken out ehmcee for being all-but-locktown. if the maf didnt have the gun for the chickening kill (dont tinfoil they did/could've, it was creamy who shot chickening atp is all but confirmed) it seems so unreasonable to me to then go, oh but this wildly unlikely sequence happened, giving maf the gun to shoot tommy. yes, tommy's a logical kill for maf in this case, but. this ain't it.
to ehmcee: i feel like a broken record but you need to be more active as someone who has a fuctionally all-expenses-paid free trip ticket to the vacation destiny of your dreams. you're all but townlock'd in the eyes of most, you need to be leveraging that into being a solver here. i appreciate you subbing in greatly, but please don't coast.
about bd: consider bd!!! this spot is sliding under everyone's radars while also being in the poe? that's exactly where a mafia would be. come on y'all. i get that you're voting me, i get that jalmont needs to be the gunkill if we have it. but please please please take deeper looks at this slot and come to your own conclusions. mine was that bd is scum, which is where my vote is going, but y'all cannot be talking about des or ne or alice without first putting your thesises together on this slot.
to bd: well. if you aren't scum, sorry friend, but i'm flipping town here and i'd hope that at least a few players heed my warnings and look into your slot more. i'd put together your defenses over the night cycle if i was town!you, because flipping town while screaming bloody murder about your name to the sky would hopefully get you some attention you'll need to defuse/defend yourself on next cycle. if you are scum, uh, get voted? ty.
about des: "haha af is mad at a slot nobody scumreads" "haha af is trying to expand the poe to include des bc she doesnt wanna get voted as maf" folks!!!! what has des done since like, cycle 2? des doesn't even post or read the thread anymore, just wanders in going "any1 have qs for me? ping me" and then wanders off for the remainder of the irl day. i'm not saying she's scum here, but i'm saying she's scum here in the most likely outcome (jal, bd, one of des/lechen).
to des: there is an unfortunate side effect of mafia is that you can see who mafia are scared of in most games by seeing who gets NK'd. this is why imaginaryneon survives to the endgame every time, because maf are never worried about him to the point of needing to kill him. i dont mean this as an insult or anything, but you need to start being active and not passive, and need to start solving if you are town. you needed to never become passive, frankly, but please as the words of a dying woman - please get reinvested in this game. you aren't absorbing what is happening in the thread, and that is clearly obvious, this needs to stop now if you want town to win.
about lechen: i honestly think his temper tantrum is town AI when he was the most likely vote, but that doesn't mean he should be dropped to the bottom of POE. i think he's more towny than others right now, we have time to not worry too much abt lechen (bc, presumably, scum jal flips overnight to a gun and then scum bd gets voted the next day) but btwn him and des should be the final scumslot, unless folks wanna spend their time trying to find a TMI from alice or whoever.
to lechen: yeah, ill give you that you're getting more active, but if you're town buddy we're at a point where you can't just be defending yourself and only reacting when poked. i get that your tz and some irl stuff impacted your ability to really go back and forth with many of us in the thread, but we need all hands on deck at this point. i still think you have a decent chance at being scum, but if you're town we need more than just reactive content.
about ne: we're frankly only alive bc of him. if we never see realiti then chicken never really enters suspicion and we prob spend too much time messing around on CK. if there's scum in the realiti bus (if any of it was a bus) it's not NE. i wish he did more after it, but i mean if you hit it out of the ballpark then nobody's expecting much more of you, ig.
to ne: you posted a bit this cycle, i appreciate this, but shit's about to get real difficult. i don't really expect another dossier, but i won't deny that a bd iso of the remaining near-POE would be helpful for solving the rest of the game. i'd hoped we'd be able to get you to the win without needing you to pull a magic trick again, but if the POE doesn't contain all of the rest of the mafia, it might be helpful to see if there's a missing foundation in Alice's ISO somewhere or something
good luck folks. this is not going to be my last post, lord knows i like empty chatter, but this will probably be the last post of effort i make this game. y'all have this to inform your opinions once i go over as town, make it worth it.
??? I was already active right after eipp ended lol, it's just that because of our contrastingtzs you likely don't see me posting considering that I had talked more then some other players that aren't labelled as inact rofl
Shots are simultaneous, so nk and gun shot will always both happen.
If the gun shooter is killed on a night they shoot, the nk kill carrier will take the gun.
If the nk kill carrier and gun shooter shoot each other, so they both die that night, then the gun will pass to the next town on the list though.
Ok maf have fun