In an effort to try to deviate a tiny bit from the tone of a few replies here while keeping focused on some of what leng loi and Finch posted, I really appreciate the fact that some VR Council members were willing to be this transparent about how they personally view OU's current threats even if I don't completely agree with a handful of picks (or even fully understand them). I think it speaks to the interesting level of diversity present in this late-gen meta and it's nice to see different players' insights into what's good/how good what's good is.
So in that regard, I'd like to genuinely thank both of them for sharing their votes for this slate; it's not something y'all needed to do whatsoever but it's a nice element of transparency that I didn't know I needed to see until now, although I by no means want to pressure the entire VR Council to follow suit since that should be their choice at the end of the day.
For instance, leng loi has an extremely favorable view of Lando, while Finch doesn't view it quite as favorably (I mean, A is still a very respectable rank fitting for a respected metagame staple, so it's hard to say it's really unfavorable). Finch doesn't view Cornerstone as very strong right now, while leng loi views it quite favorably by voting to keep it in B+. Both seem to agree that Araquanid is thriving (I was very happy that my nomination got somewhere; I fucking love Araquanid Webs atm), and Finch views Ninetales-A extremely favorably compared to leng loi. And I don't think either person's opinions are objectively wrong, either; both of their votes are, at the end of the day, informed opinions. They're opinions that are formed by in-depth knowledge of this current OU metagame, which is why I believe they hold a fair bit of weight, but they're still opinions.
Either way, thank you both for sharing how you voted on this slate! I find it incredibly insightful, and once the VR update drops I'd be very interested in picking the VR Council's brains about any super notable changes that aren't already discussed in the update post!
So in that regard, I'd like to genuinely thank both of them for sharing their votes for this slate; it's not something y'all needed to do whatsoever but it's a nice element of transparency that I didn't know I needed to see until now, although I by no means want to pressure the entire VR Council to follow suit since that should be their choice at the end of the day.
For instance, leng loi has an extremely favorable view of Lando, while Finch doesn't view it quite as favorably (I mean, A is still a very respectable rank fitting for a respected metagame staple, so it's hard to say it's really unfavorable). Finch doesn't view Cornerstone as very strong right now, while leng loi views it quite favorably by voting to keep it in B+. Both seem to agree that Araquanid is thriving (I was very happy that my nomination got somewhere; I fucking love Araquanid Webs atm), and Finch views Ninetales-A extremely favorably compared to leng loi. And I don't think either person's opinions are objectively wrong, either; both of their votes are, at the end of the day, informed opinions. They're opinions that are formed by in-depth knowledge of this current OU metagame, which is why I believe they hold a fair bit of weight, but they're still opinions.
Either way, thank you both for sharing how you voted on this slate! I find it incredibly insightful, and once the VR update drops I'd be very interested in picking the VR Council's brains about any super notable changes that aren't already discussed in the update post!
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doesn't provide as much utility as you'd want and is weak to rocks with a mid speed tier, its a solid breaker but that isn't enough to be an A+ mon imo.
is very good but Zamazenta provides more utility while having more versatility, dropped gambit down to S- but its borderline to me and no doubt the second best mon in the meta.
