NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

1. What gives you that impression?

2. Does translating the last paragraph to
"Nobody else claiming vig means we shouldn't vote CK, and charlie looks more scum if NE is scum, which means we may need to vote CK later"
1. Gut and Vibes. The reason for not tying the vote was weird when the EoD flurry was already there. A far more likely reason to not vote NE would be to not bus a teammate.

2. If I'm reading your translation right, then: Yes.
 
i don't like the pulsar vote on me i think it's fair to think sunny's reasoning comes from a town pov but to immediately sheep it is bad
because pulsar didnt bother following up on anything else
re: early NE on pulsar
after more reading pulsar still sucks it feels like a slot coasting on a read on me, and nothing else
continued sl on pulsar

this feels like a towny line followed by hedginess, this can stay in null, itd have been town had there been an actual reason for hedginess but as it is it feels like splattering your own reads with paint
sus on Lechen (which NE claims to later misremember as a DBD post)

i should probably secure plur but i dont like these votes does anyone want to cfd to pulsar
literally asking for a pulsar vote

Vote: DeadByDaylight
votes DBD, at this point only Des is on the wagon, but between this and the next update about the wagon, Des left, meaning NE is alone on the DBD wagon

done w dinner glad to see the hydro i remember is here and is town
ill just address SB. and bluedoom together wrt dbd vote, the hedginess I noted is something I've caught 3 times with, and at the time I thought one of myself/vizh/skipper was on plur with like 30 minutes to go. I'd much rather have voted pulsar but no one was voting pulsar, and I wanted a shift, not a vanity
that being said im going to Vote: pulsar512b for generaally no good posts beyond basically repeatedly saying I was afk
Says something that sorta(?) supports the claim for the Lechen/DBD mixup
Moves from solo voting DBD to solo voting pulsar

theres a perfectly good explanation: i mixed up dbd and lechen, i didn’t like lechen’s hedginess earlier and misremembered as dbd
Realization for the mixup later on
 
His progression from dbd-->pulsar isn't consistent, not very active, dbd/pulsar don't feel like solvey votes at the time he suggested it given that pulsar was barely active and dbd wasn't much better. Also a metaread but he isn't as solvey as I know him to be.

However I will admit that I haven't reread the eod to know how his vote ended up on AS
- I think the progression makes sense
- Agreed, but so is a good chunk of the pl
- Agreed, but wouldn't that be equally for Mekkah, Lechen, and AG who all actually ended up on the DBD wagon?
- Meta read
- Due to the role claim

I really do not think NE is our best vote here
 
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day 2 post thoughts
 
would not vote right now (not necessarily because I think they're all town)

Aura Guardian - has an active role claim. i don't think it makes him a whole lot cleaner but i wouldn't hate it if he got his action off n3. that said if he does something scummy i'd move him out of here.
HyHy - his posts strike me as towny. I'd like to find an opportunity to go back and forth with him but I think our timezones match up poorly.
a fairy - even if AG is a mafia his claim strikes me more as TMIing a town than a scum/scum setup. glad to see af posting more on-topic on d2
CrreamyKitty - I think that vig role use and claim is wild but I can't wrap my head around this being a scum gambit. although the claimed kill being on cooldown is convenient if CK is scum. that said i'm against voting people who claimed on principle. i am contemplating on whether it makes sense for CrreamyKitty to give more info - like if there's any prospect of mega evolving to get rid of the cooldown - but i think that might give scum too much info. i'd rather they be the ones to think over whether it's worth killing a vig. I think if I was scum I would evaluate this on a night by night basis. if CK scumreads a bunch of town you'd rather leave him alive.
des121 - I do not find her posts very helpful and if someone else posted like that I would not put them in this category. I agree with the earlier assessment someone (Tommy?) made that she plays for self preservation. which I think is gonna work, I don't think scum is killing her any time soon regardless of her alignment.

Of those I'd rank their towniness for me rn as a fairy > HyHy > CK > des.

That leaves a fair amount of people but let me cross reference that with my EOD1 evaluation.
 
I think the AligningStar vote doesn't have all the scum in it. Which from my POV makes me want to look closely at skipper, Lechen, sunny, bluedoom and Lechen. But I would feel safe as mafia parking like 1 vote there, which right now I would have to guess is NightEmerald.

When I got more time I wanna look at those posters in isolation which I'm guessing is what ISOing means?
 
I just realized Lechen shows up twice in host votecounts lol. Does he really have two different votes? That's such an odd ability. I was just looking at the votecount in in 1289 when writing that list and I don't think there's anyone else that I meant.

The only people I haven't mentioned there who are a) off-wagon b) not flipped yet and c) not in my "would not vote off" list is DBD. I already said I think he is suspicious (that's why I kept my vote on him d1) though I really don't think d1 activity is a great scumtell nor does it give the most info to flip that person so I can see myself voting someone else.

Well I guess there's pulsar but I need to see what her d2 looks like first.
 
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