NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Votecount 2.7: i'm flandrs now
bluedoom
(3): sunny004, Aura Guardian, skippergamez
skippergamez (3): bluedoom, Lechen, Vizh
pulsar512b (2[3-1]): des121, CrreamyKitty, charlieum
NightEmerald (2): Dead by Daylight, Mekkah
Dead by Daylight (2): Lechen, HydrogenHydreigon

Not Voting (3): a fairy, pulsar512b, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 4 hours. Please don't notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
- BD wagon: obviously I am fine with this wagon. AG's and Skip's votes read to me as slightly sheep-y but obv I am gonna have some confirmation bias here
- Skip wagon: BD's vote here and general interaction is distinct enough from that of NE to make me think that the two are unpaired. I think the below post from BD wrt skipper actually makes a lot of sense and despite what I have said about BD is a legitimate reason to vote skip. Lechen and Vizh are also some of my top townreads (lechen for mech reasons / vizh for gameplay reasons) so if I am wrong and BD flips town this would be the wagon I would like to explore afterwards.
Like I'm not sure why we are in a world where we're defending NE/pulsar/skip(its been almost 36 hours since day started and NE still hasn't posted)


And skip's contribution for d1 has been to votepark on Vizh the entire day...and he has suddenly forgotten that Vizh was a scumread of his? Nor does he mention anything about sunny or charlie, whom he had as scumleans too, so his new reads are me/Lechen?

Why am I spelling this out?
- Pulsar wagon: I said this in my des reaction post but pulsar should just be subbed out atp. Inactivity is scummy atp and would merit a policyvote normally but not with 6 subs! And besides the interaction point I made when responding to BD still stands. Wrt voters: I still have no idea with des, I don't think any of us have actually seen scum des so I have nothing to compare it to. I think this slot will only really be solved via mech unfortunately. CK being town makes a lot of sense here, I said my piece re: his fakeclaim when interacting with hydro but he is on a clock here no matter what and the fact that this vig claim didn't come in an endgame scenario looks good for him. Either he gets NKed soon or we vote him (although its worth noting a savvy scumteam will not NK him so we are baited into voting him). Re: charlie, I like your solving presence and general reads. I don't have too many specific points to make because TBH I don't remember any, which is both good and bad? Like my general thought is "good poster" but if you asked me to name a specific banger charlie post I couldn't off of the top of my head. But maybe that is just from me not ISOing you enough + digesting thread. If you want me to respond to anything specific lmk; either way I wouldn't vote you today.

-NE wagon: I said this before but I think I might just be missing the main reasons for voting him? Like I'm not explicitly against it but I just am not following / seeing the reasonings for a NE vote today esp. over others. I wrote about DBD earlier but I don't like his posting + he has shown more activity than pulsar but does just seem to be coasting a bit which makes me think like hydro re: coasting scum. Mekkah is fine ig; I certainly wouldn't vote him but I have nothing to reference so I wouldn't confidently TR him either.
 
Should I just claim or what, I need to sleep soon and will not be around for dl
I think we have plenty of people claiming, more than we needed tbh. Personally I don't think I will be voting bluedoom, so unless a lot of other people wagon onto him I don't see the need? Like just from reading over his posts in isolation I would maybe even move bluedoom up to my lower townreads for today, but I will admit I might be easily impressed by much content=good
 
Also I see people throw around the words analysis, reasoning and solving a lot, sometimes as a response to "they posted a wall but there's no analysis"...I am finding it hard to understand. HyHy posts a lot of stream of consciousness kind of stuff, he doesn't get that accusation, he just gets townread by half the game. skipper, Vizh and Tommy posted a fair bit and they have all at one point or another got that thrown at him (for example NE in 2040 just now), is there some telltale sign of solid analysis that I'm missing here?
Fwiw the few scum! Hh games that I've read he just freezes and just posts sparsely with few lines if anything and whatever he's doing is the opposite of that so that's why I tr him, i don't really think about analysis too much as much as what I think makes sense from what I know about a person
 
*looks at aligning* but i do think this is probably right
Just to contrast with aligning role; that was random, so while yes it is powerful it still likely ends up with a town being NKed + it has to be mega evolved first. Whereas excluding CK (if claim is true) town's KP is really only through the vote so I think the game needs to be balanced around town keeping control of that for as long as possible. Hence scum doublevoter just tends to break the balance more imo.

Also given the fact that lechen didn't doublevote D1 it is prob safe to say he mega evolved. Maybe this points towards scum coordination where they can mega evolve each other? But part of me doubts that given reasoning above.
 
Also I see people throw around the words analysis, reasoning and solving a lot, sometimes as a response to "they posted a wall but there's no analysis"...I am finding it hard to understand. HyHy posts a lot of stream of consciousness kind of stuff, he doesn't get that accusation, he just gets townread by half the game. skipper, Vizh and Tommy posted a fair bit and they have all at one point or another got that thrown at him (for example NE in 2040 just now), is there some telltale sign of solid analysis that I'm missing here?
There's a difference between having an opinion and working out that opinion in the thread if that makes sense. Surface level stuff is eh, but deeper stuff that looks deeper into connections is better
 
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