NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

marlyne said:
des121 pinging jic you miss it
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des actually sorta answered this already
Vizh said:
So DBD said they weren’t roleblocked N1 but that their action simply failed
You roleblocked DBD for N1
You thought it was suspicious that DBD said they weren’t roleblocked because you roleblocked then

So that’s why you claimed?
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But yeah it was very much not clear and not really explained in the way I would expect someone to at least attempt to explain it if they notice it's having the unintended side effect of having votes shift onto bluedoom

Plus it's just unnecessary at that point because DBD was already top wagon, so even t!des gains nothing
 
des121 said:
Ya but should I claim?
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Actually for the sake of thoroughness I remembered that des wanted to claim previously here, which was after DBD said he wasn't necessarily rb'd here:
Dead by Daylight said:
ok I made an error: my action failed last night, which made me think I got RBed
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At this point votes were:
StupidFlandrs48 said:
Votecount 2.9: Someone's Life on the Line
Dead by Daylight (5): Lechen, HydrogenHydreigon, a fairy, NightEmerald, des121
pulsar512b (3): charlieum, Vizh, Dead by Daylight, CrreamyKitty
bluedoom (3): sunny004, Aura Guardian, skippergamez
skippergamez (2): bluedoom, Lechen
NightEmerald (1): Mekkah
CrreamyKitty (1): pulsar512b

Not Voting (0):

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 20 minutes. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.

I would like to note that it took a fairy nearly 100 pages to say "i am town" for the first time. Feel free to congratulate or heckle her as you see fit.
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So it's still unnecessary but arguably better?
 
Aura Guardian said:
Quoting myself for a quote chain to the right post. I'm getting vibes that BD and SB are on the same side. If BD is mafia, then so is SB. If SB is mafia, then we should probably look long and hard at BD.
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curious what your thoughts on charlie are now that BD has flipped green

it's 2 AM so i'll be quick:
AG's posts seem to be coming from a solving perspective, which i like. if i'm not interpreting this wrongly i see that AF, AG, and mekkah have cleared the former 2 to some extent?? i don't see a motivation for scum!AG to do so, especially since they have claimed their role to be role thief (which i would assume is likelier to be a scum role)

tldr AG is fine but i will reread in the morning i dont trust my 2 AM judgement
 
marlyne said:
curious what your thoughts on charlie are now that BD has flipped green

it's 2 AM so i'll be quick:
AG's posts seem to be coming from a solving perspective, which i like. if i'm not interpreting this wrongly i see that AF, AG, and mekkah have cleared the former 2 to some extent?? i don't see a motivation for scum!AG to do so, especially since they have claimed their role to be role thief (which i would assume is likelier to be a scum role)

tldr AG is fine but i will reread in the morning i dont trust my 2 AM judgement
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Spotty time to respond, quoting this so I can check my posts to find this again.

But my thing there was ne/charlie/CK, not directly to do with bluedoom.
 
marlyne said:
idk how to feel about CK assuming that the voteblocker is mafia-aligned
like i do get he was voteblocked earlier but that can still come from a town-aligned voteblocker no??

...then again, the last time i scumread someone for something thinking like this they ended up flipping green so zz
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This is not at all what I implied? I’m saying the voteblocker could be any align but most likely town
 
marlyne said:
curious what your thoughts on charlie are now that BD has flipped green

it's 2 AM so i'll be quick:
AG's posts seem to be coming from a solving perspective, which i like. if i'm not interpreting this wrongly i see that AF, AG, and mekkah have cleared the former 2 to some extent?? i don't see a motivation for scum!AG to do so, especially since they have claimed their role to be role thief (which i would assume is likelier to be a scum role)

tldr AG is fine but i will reread in the morning i dont trust my 2 AM judgement
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Yeah I wouldn't use the word "clear" here. AG says he stole af's role, and says the role he stole is towny. And then he used af's role on me. And it is pretty towny I guess. In some games I think mafia gets like fake/weak roles to claim as town, but I think since in this game they already get that fake visit I don't think host would also give them this kinda role. I think it makes af cleaner than AG, since an every-other-night-role-thief is still pretty :thinking-emoji:, and it doesn't really say a whole lot about me.
 
Vizh said:
marlyne CrreamyKitty Mekkah
Do you have a read on sunny? How much are you reading into both bluedoom and Lechen leaning on sunny?
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I think so far his solving has looked pretty solid and he had a great start, so I’m still town on him.

Bluedoom was a lynch so idc about his thoughts, and I think Lechen was killed for his role rather than his solving (There was better, sorry bro.)
 
CrreamyKitty said:
I think so far his solving has looked pretty solid and he had a great start, so I’m still town on him.

Bluedoom was a lynch so idc about his thoughts, and I think Lechen was killed for his role rather than his solving (There was better, sorry bro.)
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Not as in, BD sucks because he was mislynched, but town killed him rather than scum so there’s nothing to really analyze aside from knowing that his thoughts were from an uninformed POV
 
Vizh said:
But yeah it was very much not clear and not really explained in the way I would expect someone to at least attempt to explain it if they notice it's having the unintended side effect of having votes shift onto bluedoom

Plus it's just unnecessary at that point because DBD was already top wagon, so even t!des gains nothing
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I guess this is kind of true actually? Because even if des is mafia there it looks like they're trying to contradict DBD and don't realise they're actually burying bluedoom, so the odds of them being s/s is probably down. Hm.
 
charlieum said:
I guess this is kind of true actually? Because even if des is mafia there it looks like they're trying to contradict DBD and don't realise they're actually burying bluedoom, so the odds of them being s/s is probably down. Hm.
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Actually this is ironically the opposite point I was making. I don’t think anyone present (at least me, but others too based on the start of today) interpreted it as claiming against DBD with the purpose of claiming against DBD, and des really didn’t try to fight back against the bluedoom votes at all. My second bit was to say that des has no reason to contradict DBD as t!des because DBD was the top wagon anyway and was likely going over if des did nothing
 
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