NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

huuh

mind walking me through your thought process for a bit. you saw bluedoom claim roleblocker, and decided not to counterclaim then? how come?
ok so what i'm gathering is that des didn't mean to counterclaim bluedoom but it still kind pings me weird ngl anyway

This is not at all what I implied? I’m saying the voteblocker could be any align but most likely town
i'm ngl my initial interpretation was what jumped out to me at first but now i see what you meant, my bad

Yeah I wouldn't use the word "clear" here. AG says he stole af's role, and says the role he stole is towny. And then he used af's role on me. And it is pretty towny I guess. In some games I think mafia gets like fake/weak roles to claim as town, but I think since in this game they already get that fake visit I don't think host would also give them this kinda role. I think it makes af cleaner than AG, since an every-other-night-role-thief is still pretty :thinking-emoji:, and it doesn't really say a whole lot about me.
seen, i knew i couldn't trust my skim thru smh

marlyne CrreamyKitty Mekkah
Do you have a read on sunny? How much are you reading into both bluedoom and Lechen leaning on sunny?
marlyne is ok so far but it does just read as "person who hasn't kept up with thread is reacting to game so far" without alignment indicators. Would like to know if they have strong thoughts on the deadline rushes considering their slot has been a point of contention in them.
seen, will address later in the day

first of all i never have been mafia
des im crying

wisp entrance is nai because as they mentioned they took notes before subbing in, if activity schedules match up marlyne lets livepost a bit
1) no i literally didnt :sob: 2) are you still around i can attempt to livepost

off of vibes i like mekkah's readslist, hoping to pick through it later today though

Base Abilities

Fake Out: On Night 1 only, target another player to make them flinch; they will be unable to use their abilities that night.

Mega Abilities

Mega Fake Out: This ability is the same as the standard Fake Out, except it can be used on two consecutive nights after Mega evolving, and each target will be unable to use their abilities for the following night as well.
1) um
2) ...mega fake out?
3) so is there ever a need for a town-aligned roleblocker that persists for the next day. i mean i guess there could be but in the context of a role madness game, i am not gonna lie this reads like a scum role.

oh hi martyne!
hello
hyhy is another slot i like very much. i like how they've been transparent wrt their reads + solving process. overall the vibes are great

and this feels potentially trying to shut des up before a spew(?)
i'll be honest i didn't read it like that ngl

When I re-read the post you were quoting, I was wondering what I'd meant. Then I followed that line back a ways.

It was from what I perceived to be a scumslip from a previous game involving thechickening/zuko. I said that if BD wasn't town, we should take a long look at charlie. BD flipped town, so there's nothing left there, except looking at him on his own merits.

Just took a glance at some of what SB/charlie's been saying. I'm getting not-good vibes from him. Not sure how to phrase it. Not a full scumlean right now, but definitely not any form of townlean.
seen and will circle back to this

i need to do a deeper dive ngl my thoughts feel so surface level atm (i will blame this on me not taking notes in my google doc)
 
It doesn’t really need to be coordinated

s!des sees s!DBD as the top wagon and that bluedoom has claimed RB, so s!des counterclaims RB to send bluedoom over

It still doesn’t make any sense for t!des to claim there to push over the top wagon over even more when DBD was already going over
If it was another player I would agree, but idt you can really apply that logic to des. Without a pre-determined plan by maf (e.g. DBD claims to be blocked) I don't think des would come up with something like this for her scumbuddy. If the intent was to kill bluedoom, why not just cc bluedoom and ignore DBD? I don't think they thought it through and wouldn't have had support to play out the gambit so I think if they are s/s it would've been des trying to bus and somehow failing the bus into a town vote.
 
Respect to the people who are taking today to reread because I am mostly using this weekend as a much-needed refresh/getting irl stuff done. I don't feel confident immediately leaping into voting DBD off of maf!des flip and want to reread properly for interactions once we have confirmation they're not randomly itp which I guess would also explain the messiness.

btw @ last page my sig literally says they/them so uh please remember that
 
Votecount 3.2: Sceptile Sunday Edition
des121
(5): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, CrreamyKitty, HydrogenHydreigon
pulsar512b (0): des121

Not Voting (7): Aura Guardian, Mekkah, skippergamez, charlieum, marlyne, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 6 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
Votecount 3.2: Sceptile Sunday Edition
des121
(5): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, CrreamyKitty, HydrogenHydreigon
pulsar512b (0): des121

Not Voting (7): Aura Guardian, Mekkah, skippergamez, charlieum, marlyne, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 6 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
i suck at counting
 
If it was another player I would agree, but idt you can really apply that logic to des. Without a pre-determined plan by maf (e.g. DBD claims to be blocked) I don't think des would come up with something like this for her scumbuddy. If the intent was to kill bluedoom, why not just cc bluedoom and ignore DBD? I don't think they thought it through and wouldn't have had support to play out the gambit so I think if they are s/s it would've been des trying to bus and somehow failing the bus into a town vote.
Ehhhhhh I guess that’s fair

I just genuinely can’t think of a reason for s!des to claim there other than to get votes onto bluedoom specifically (and by virtue of that, off of DBD). It’s weird because des has kinda just made horrible votes before and they’re handwaved away, so why couldn’t des just do another strange vote onto DBD?

But yeah this does make enough sense where I am less committed to my solve attempt
 
Votecount 3.3: Wisp is just like me (frfr)
des121
(7): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, Aura Guardian, CrreamyKitty, HydrogenHydreigon, marlyne
pulsar512b (0): des121

Not Voting (5): Mekkah, skippergamez, charlieum, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 90 minutes. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
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Votecount 3.3: Wisp is just like me (frfr)
des121
(6): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, a fairy, CrreamyKitty, HydrogenHydreigon, marlyne
pulsar512b (0): des121

Not Voting (6): Aura Guardian, Mekkah, skippergamez, charlieum, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 90 minutes. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
I thought I voted des? Checking.
 
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