NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

marlyne said:
how come lmao did you not just say that i haven't been offering much

and i think arsonist primes ignore protection but don't quote me on that
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I believe that you have been targeting CK. I guess you are right, maybe you are scum bg protecting your teammate. but your role is more of a martyresque role that seems really bizarre on mafia. I suppose you could be lying about the additional restrictions. but it's tough to lie about. idk I guess maybe it's a safe claim or whatever but yeah, idk I just believe it

who do you think you will be voting for today?
 
Mekkah said:
HydrogenHydreigon can you specify a couple of sunny posts that you like/make you feel he's town? I have the same feeling but I still feel like the ratio of people putting him in townlean (even towncore) towards how good his posts are is off, I'd put him in null for me personally
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100s, his arguments about voting off experienced players early. I don’t necessarily agree but I don’t think scum!sunny pushes that agenda so vehemently
Ok so I have been isoing him again and i can’t actually pinpoint anything else and I am seeing your point
 
JALMONT said:
I believe that you have been targeting CK. I guess you are right, maybe you are scum bg protecting your teammate. but your role is more of a martyresque role that seems really bizarre on mafia. I suppose you could be lying about the additional restrictions. but it's tough to lie about. idk I guess maybe it's a safe claim or whatever but yeah, idk I just believe it

who do you think you will be voting for today?
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i will have to rethink but atm i'm leaning AG because i'm still stuck on the whole role thief thing
 
I mean does anyone realistically think AF was killed because they were closing to solving the game. if someone can help me out with that it would be great

that suggests AG or someone knew AF was likely 3p. but if AG knew, why not push for a vote and get mad town credit? why paint AF as 3p and risk a 3p kill coming out of nowhere and getting a deep wolf?

ok maybe NE knew with the info thing (remember they claimed to get info GENGAR was in the game, it's possible they could've gotten more info that said gengar is 3p). but we know NE's mega ability is real. Idk I mean backup is usually town but it could be mafia. mega ability being backup seems weird for a scum role. alternatively it could be the base role with ??? mega. the info stuff is really self evident so >average possibility that;s just all made up.

CK - I just don't know. CK has been totally w wrong about every single vote but then again, the last 2 votes have basically been total washes so idk how much I can ding them. The dusk vig was bad. The role claim is just really weird. everyone has a super overturned roles pretty much but this dude is claiming 1x kill and then the mega ability is they can recharge (at a rate of 1 per night? so another 2 nights to get a kill so 3 cycles to get another kill AFTER mega evolution which they refuse to claim). that's just suspect af and I have to believe something is missing there. That said I do have some interesting info on CK but I'm waiting to reveal that tomorrow, hopefully after I hear a little more from them.

Charlie - everything about Charlie suggests they are town. unfortunately I don't believe we can afford to leave this role Alive because we will auto lose if a town gets their vote negated. that's really unfortunately and it's kind of a reality I'm choosing to just ignore for now. why would mafia!Charlie claim vote negator? what was the basis for them claiming? I mean surely if you are scum, you just keep your mouth quiet and there's no way for anyone to ever know who the vote negator is

Makkah - I town read Makkah going through the game, but after today I'm not so sure. the strong reluctance to claim today is very suspect for me. unfortunately I always have a tendency to wifom people so part of my suspicion is that as well.
 
claims compendium atm
lmk if i missed something
  • Aura Guardian (flavour unknown, Town Role Thief/Temporary Vanillaiser – gets a 1-shot version of the target’s Mega ability; target is unable to use it for the next 3 nights.)
  • Dead by Daylight → JALMONT (flavour unknown, ability to kill, automatically targets the person with the most actions used on them that night)
  • Lechen (Charizard, Town Doublevoter/Motivator) died N2
  • HydrogenHydreigon
  • Mekkah
  • Blazade (Metagross, Town Mega Cop/Gladiator) died N1
  • Duskfall98 (Houndoom, Town Tracker) died N1
  • bluedoom (Gyarados, Town Roleblocker) voted D2
  • a fairy (Gengar, Neutral Arsonist) killed N3
  • CrreamyKitty (Latios, Town Vigilante – vigilante shot has a cooldown. post-Mega evolution, ability allows to decrease the cooldown and strongwill the shot as well)
  • skippergamez → ImaginaryNeon
  • Vizh
  • charlieum (flavour unknown, vote negator, mega evolution condition triggers in MYLO)
  • des121 (Kangaskhan, Town Roleblocker) voted D3
  • AligningStar (Absol, Town Announcer/Deflector) voted D1
  • pulsar512b → marlyne (Aggron, Town Bodyguard – kills attacker pre-Mega Evolution, has an OS BP post-Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution is triggered by receiving the second most votes at EOD; base abilities are lost.)
  • sunny004
  • NightEmerald (Swampert, gets host info, backup protective role turned into aligning’s deflector)
there is an identity-unknown Tyranitar present and alive according to AG
4 mafia are alive according to NE
 
I still think AF was killed because scum genuinely thought she was town.

I'll think over the mass claim idea, JALMONTs point about vote negator bringing us closer to MYLO is a fair point.

Smogon BG is usually just "target X, they can't get nightkilled tonight" but I assume in this context it means "target X, if they get targeted with a nightkill you take the hit for them" and marlyne has what I'd usually call a BPV
 
the thing about marlyn's bpv is
and i understand this is not a full counterclaim bc her role has more to it

I'm OS deathproof. the first time im supposed to die i just dont. i dont have a mega ability because i start the game mega evolved. my conspiracy theory was i havent been killed bc mafia copped me/knows my role somehow
 
Mekkah said:
I still think AF was killed because scum genuinely thought she was town.

I'll think over the mass claim idea, JALMONTs point about vote negator bringing us closer to MYLO is a fair point.

Smogon BG is usually just "target X, they can't get nightkilled tonight" but I assume in this context it means "target X, if they get targeted with a nightkill you take the hit for them" and marlyne has what I'd usually call a BPV
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this is basically it
with the addition that pre-mega i wouldve killed the attacker while dying
 
To expand on the point about why I think scum killed af for being townish: I don't think mafia would waste their nightkill on her if they knew she was SK. You'd much rather kill (or try to kill) a towny person. Maybe that's my OC 2v1 style of thinking. SK is more likely to hit town than scum. I guess it could've been an attempt to just take over the game after one more misvote if you assume charlie is mafia vote negator and there's no other vote control.
 
So y
HydrogenHydreigon said:
the thing about marlyn's bpv is
and i understand this is not a full counterclaim bc her role has more to it

I'm OS deathproof. the first time im supposed to die i just dont. i dont have a mega ability because i start the game mega evolved. my conspiracy theory was i havent been killed bc mafia copped me/knows my role somehow
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So you have no roles or abilities except 1x bpv?
Mekkah said:
To expand on the point about why I think scum killed af for being townish: I don't think mafia would waste their nightkill on her if they knew she was SK. You'd much rather kill (or try to kill) a towny person. Maybe that's my OC 2v1 style of thinking. SK is more likely to hit town than scum. I guess it could've been an attempt to just take over the game after one more misvote if you assume charlie is mafia vote negator and there's no other vote control.
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alright so AG is town then. What if I said I wanted to vote you next?
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
no not really its kind of just the mechanically right option no?
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Do you think Charlie is independently scummy

I’d feel better if someone said yes. I notice they think I’m mafia which makes me feel better that said I thought Dbd was scummy too

I don’t know like I said why would mafia claim vote negater. That seems awfully silly. Is this just a big charade between charlie/ck/ne to cover themselves. Unlikely with no day talk
 
JALMONT said:
Do you think Charlie is independently scummy

I’d feel better if someone said yes. I notice they think I’m mafia which makes me feel better that said I thought Dbd was scummy too

I don’t know like I said why would mafia claim vote negater. That seems awfully silly. Is this just a big charade between charlie/ck/ne to cover themselves. Unlikely with no day talk
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my independent opinion of charlie is null. ive tried to read him several and have vocalized my frustations at unable to read them as anytihng but null.

i have no clue what your second line is about like you thought dbd was scummy before you subbed in?

this. like obviosuly the mehcniaclally right option is voting vote negator and its not like charlie has been exceptionally townie but maf!vote negator doesnt claim in any world right?? like they know when town reaches the pre-mylo/lylo point they just die right.
 
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