HydrogenHydreigon thoughts on this?
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NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)
- Thread starter StupidFlandrs48
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Anyway deliberation over, claim incoming BUT there's a twist!
Vizh and I are masons, we can daytalk privately. One of us has passive protection over the other. The other gets +1 vote if the first one dies. I'm hiding who's who so scum has to win a coinflip if they want to take us out. If you look back at our post history with this in mind, I think it's pretty obvious. I thought of a way to (mostly) prove it with AG's help, but I need to check with Flandrs if it's allowed, since it involves the neighboring power from a previous day.
Vizh and I are masons, we can daytalk privately. One of us has passive protection over the other. The other gets +1 vote if the first one dies. I'm hiding who's who so scum has to win a coinflip if they want to take us out. If you look back at our post history with this in mind, I think it's pretty obvious. I thought of a way to (mostly) prove it with AG's help, but I need to check with Flandrs if it's allowed, since it involves the neighboring power from a previous day.
Confirming now
marlyne vote looks pretty good
skipper also looking pretty good
Neon still looking good
Hydro is a strong enough TL for me that I’m feeling good enough about the DBD wagon
With retrospect the bluedoom wagons looks much worse. I’m gonna look into NE and see if there was a pre-des desire to flip
Hm. I’m not familiar with 3p meta, would a fairy have actually attempted to target a scum D2 or would they have tried to keep them alive?
I just checked thread this before bed and it’s 23:33 so forgive the stupidness I’m not sure what I’m supposed to respond to..? Is there something odd about the claim? I’m thbibkgo about it harder now. Is it “the next phase is mylo” or the “the next phase *can become* mylo” bc how do even judge the former if the numbers are like ok wait brain is trying to brain. If Flanders only considers ratios and not actions and assumes mafia gets kill off then the mega triggers at: 7v4, 6v3, 5v2, 4v1 in a Night phase? If it’s about th af priming ppl line idk im too sleepy to think more. Idk if I’m understanding things right this is pure brainspew bc I’m not really sure what I’m being asked of tbh
I don’t really think s!NE could have justified swapping to bluedoom and not one of the 4 in the bottom 2 groups without the claim
I’m thinking about it specifically in relation to charlie claiming vote blocker. Ordinarily I would think it’s townie because why would scum do that because we’re going to go into MYLO, but I also feel like this message is essentially priming us with the thought so that when there’s a claim of vote blocker, we think “why would charlie claim this at this time”
i will continue that kind of thought tmr im too tired for this sorry
Aura Guardian can you ping me when you're online?
It's not leading, NE was offwagon in 2.8 and then swung the vote onto DBD in 2.9. That's probably unpaired behaviour.
also hi catching up etc
I ran my big stupid face into him to see if his role was real and got redirected, CK is having a very good time as a result!
Wrt targeting CK N1 I wanted to put it on someone who wouldn't be unmemorable if I took the vote away and considering CK was catching a lot of shit at the EOD1 I didn't think he'd be able to just coast if I nabbed his vote then. I hope why I targeted des is obvious, unfortunately...
Wrt AG being a third roleblock, I don't actually agree with that because they're presumably just disabling roles and not stopping kills which is the main thing you'd want a town roleblocker for.
They are more of a clash with the info roles than anything else, though I think they're the only flipped role since Tommy that could actually (presumably?) find mafia with their ability if they lie about their role.
They are more of a clash with the info roles than anything else, though I think they're the only flipped role since Tommy that could actually (presumably?) find mafia with their ability if they lie about their role.
also should definitely ask if the burn would activate it or if it wouldn't since not a kill
I'm town, going 4 in a row in LYLO is basically unheard of and me with voteblock gives us a potential recovery angle from a second mislynch. You can say it's "optimal play" but realistically we need someone who is actually likely going to be a hit to make winning possible.
Also I just never claim this role as mafia and use it to accelerate the end of the game instead.
Don't throw.
I'm confused as to how DBD wouldn't have claimed in response to CK's claim? Maybe it's just because they're both weaker vigs and are balanced around that and that's why there's 2, but DBD was even echoing thread sentiment by basically clearing CK, even using that as justification to vote one of me/des/NE instead of investiagte CK any further
DBD is supposed to be the cc'r in this interaction and so using this justification to green CK is very strange