With that said, they NEED to nerf Dynamax. NEEEEED IT.![]()
Have Perish Song affect it, reduce the power of Max Airstream, maybe give 1.5x HP boost instead of 2x.
With that said, they NEED to nerf Dynamax. NEEEEED IT.![]()
Unless your a Sinnoh Starter, almost did in Legends: Arceus. Torterra got Headlong Rush, but so did Ursaluna, and then in SV was joined by Hariyama(?) and Great Tusk. Infernape got Raging Fury, but so did Hisuian Arcanine, and then in SV was joined by Gourging Fire (also became an Egg Move so normal Arcanine gets it too). Empoleon got Wave Crash... which worked off its lower offense stat, thus it worked better on Basculin & Basculegion who also got it, and then a handful of others got it in SV such as the Squirtle family, Aqua Tauros, Kingdra, Buizel family, Bruxish, Quaquaval, Palafin, and Dondozo.
Why is there a question mark?Hariyama(?)
Honestly, the way I see it is that the biggest problem Max Moves have is that they stack boosts.Have Perish Song affect it, reduce the power of Max Airstream, maybe give 1.5x HP boost instead of 2x.
I understand your pain, my friend, so I'll bestow you a great gift. I'm sure it'll be useful.I'm excited to play this new Legends game but I will say, it's rather frustrating that each new Legends title means the main social medias are filled with people just assuming the classic turn based combat is gone forever. There's no basis for it, and it seems worse now because of Champions making this bizarre confusion louder.
Honestly, the way I see it is that the biggest problem Max Moves have is that they stack boosts.
We don't usually see a lot of complaining about Max Geyser and Max Lightning, even though they are pretty good.
I'd straight up slap Corviknight's G-Max Move effect (Defog) to Max Airstream and find something else to give to Corv.
And replacing the stat boosting-effects of Max Moves are the bare-minimum for them to not be completely broken if we're being realistic.
Dynamax was still somewhat divisive in VGC.Out of curiosity did VGC players actually like Dynamax? As in, was it a mechanic they felt was a net good for the game that opened new frontiers of strategy while making it more fun to play and watch? Or did they just begrudgingly tolerate Dynamax because, while still overtuned, it wasn't fundamentally borked the way it was in Smogon Singles?
I have much lower standards.Alright, I didn't post this right away because I wanted to account for recency bias being a factor in what I'm about to say. I mean, it still could be, it's been less than a week, but I'm feeling confident
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Best protagonist designs we've gotten in a game set in the present day. I have to attach that qualifier since Rei & Akari are still the GOATs but these two aren't far behind. They pull off the visual symmetry of Florian & Juliana with more individual flair and distinction, they form an XYZ color trio with Calem & Serena and they just generally look absolutely dripped the fuck out. I get this distinct feeling that the action focus of Legends has changed the protagonist design ethos for the better by making them include elements that look good in motion: Rei's scarf and these two's jackets come to mind
Oh, don't worry, I got plans for them.What about:
Max Knuckle: Breaks Screens before damage
Max Steelspike: Sets Reflect on the user's side
Max Ooze: Removes stat changes on the target before damage
Max Quake: Sets a layer of Spikes on the opponent's side after damage
Max Airstream: Sets Tailwind on the user's side
For sure. Dynamax as a whole is very poorly designed. A single Max Move is already more impactful than a Z-Move just because of the secondary effects, even with the BP trade-off.Frankly Dynamax would need a bigger nerf than what most people give it.
Just compare simply Max moves to Z-moves. On paper, you give up BP of Z-moves in order to have 3 Max moves, item freedom (which can easily make up the difference in power), move freedom, Pokemon freedom, and secondary effects that often overlapped with what status Z-moves did.
That’s just Max moves alone, not to mention the other benefits Dynamax has.
Basically Dynamax needs way more nerfs than just changing Max move effects to be a bit worse.
So I would agree if Dusk Lycanroc didn't exist. At that point they could just fit Battle Bond Greninja by mixing in Battle Bond Froakie among spawns/separate form to breed from (if not just making it an ability for Froakie) like Own Tempo Rockruff. There's no reason besides arbitration or wanting to ditch the Ash Greninja form as the goal (rather than collateral) for Battle Bond still being locked to the Gen 7 demo as its only source.The problem with Ash Greninja is that it's mainly an obnoxious thing to keep porting.
It's a event-only pokemon, not even available any longer. It's not legal in VGC, and even if it was, it's tied to a supermechanic they don't want to keep porting.
While for legendaries they can do their usual random shenenigans to make them available (we've had sidequests or side activities for them in pretty much every generation after gen 5 at this point to catch all or almost all available legendaries that are legal in VGC). Why bother for a Pokemon that was available in exactly 1 generation?
They could honestly have just made it not transferable at all (like the costume pikachus for example) and saved themselves the hassle.
So the ones that mostly make this bizarre are Wyrdeer for me, because the basic handwave (not a retcon, that's a different writing practice) is that all these Pokemon/forms had evolution methods, you simply never played as a trainer that ran into the necessary means (Never finding a Peat Block for an Ursaring, or picking up a Black Augurite for a Scyther). The Doylist explanation is the items and mons not being thought of, but the Wattsonian one is "they did, YOU just never got them until now." Also to nitpick, Bloodmoon Ursaluna isn't even a retcon on the "species existing at all" part because it's an explicit part of its lore that it's so long lived as to have originated from Hisui (not modern Sinnoh) and simply survived that long in Kitakami after ending up their by drifting across the sea.my brother in christ literally every pokemon in legends arceus except the origin forms are effectively retcons
especially when 8 months after that game they retconned the retcon and actually these species still exist in modern day because we see them LOL
Ursaring doesn't have an evolution -> Ursaring only had an evolution back in Hisui, but doesn't nowadays -> Btw there's actually an entire different version of Ursaluna in Kitakami
you're telling me you can't think of a SINGLE way to make ash greninja just a mega? this shit is significantly less complicated than anything to do with "hisui" or "regionals of old mons" or "fuck you these pokemon are now fairy type"
Out of curiosity did VGC players actually like Dynamax? As in, was it a mechanic they felt was a net good for the game that opened new frontiers of strategy while making it more fun to play and watch? Or did they just begrudgingly tolerate Dynamax because, while still overtuned, it wasn't fundamentally borked the way it was in Smogon Singles?
If the former, then I wouldn't count on anything above perhaps a few small tweaks whenever it's implemented in Champions. On the other hand if the reception was bad enough they just might not even include it at all, but then again if this is in part meant to be a sandbox for retired regional mechanics they should probably figure something out because otherwise there'll just be several dozen Pokemon designs that'll never be seen again until Pokemon Legends: The Darkest Day comes out in 203X
No I'm sorry this is still dumb because it was definitely unknown to the entire Sinnoh dex as well lolSo the ones that mostly make this bizarre are Wyrdeer for me, because the basic handwave (not a retcon, that's a different writing practice) is that all these Pokemon/forms had evolution methods, you simply never played as a trainer that ran into the necessary means (Never finding a Peat Block for an Ursaring, or picking up a Black Augurite for a Scyther). The Doylist explanation is the items and mons not being thought of, but the Wattsonian one is "they did, YOU just never got them until now."
frankly I think greninja getting two cool pretty much mega forms would stick out a lot worse, similar to how I think Charizard is cringe ASFI don't care about what's a retcon or not, I want Mega Greninja to be a new design because wholesale recycling the form from the decade-old tv show would be boring and lame. I'd be fine with it taking inspiration from Ash-Greninja or even re-using an element or two like the big water shuriken but doing a literal copy-paste for the most popular of the trio while Chesnaught and Delphox get all-new designs would stick out like a sore thumb
mega charizard z soon btwfrankly I think greninja getting two cool pretty much mega forms would stick out a lot worse, similar to how I think Charizard is cringe ASF
And all they needed to do was put them up in BDSP in an update in the Grand Underground.No I'm sorry this is still dumb because it was definitely unknown to the entire Sinnoh dex as well lol
Same with any other retcon of different evos to old Pokemon. You can't tell me this is a universe with scientists that can make a fucking Link Cable between Universes (Canonically) but don't know about a Fucking Bear.
At least with most regional forms we can say "They didn't talk about Galarian Yamask because that doesn't live in Unova", but when it's literally the same region but like 150 years ago (remember, Hisui takes place around a time period based around 1850-1910, while from developer timelines Sinnoh takes place in the 2000s because it was based somewhat on modern culture - that is way too short of a time for scientists to just forget about this entire species, let alone before the concept of conservation considering the first Japanese conservation forest existed in 1897 IRL) it's just dumb.
For a lot of these Hisuian Pokemon to not exist in modern day Sinnoh, you'd have to justify it by saying that even through things like conservation efforts somehow in like < 150 years the environments shifted enough to make them all go extinct. This obviously doesn't make sense because there is nothing that makes Hisuian Pokemon less viable as a species ecologically thanI'm sorry.
Half of them are just the same Pokemon in the same environments that exist in modern Sinnoh except they're literally buffed design wise and in ways that would make them even tougher long-term. Why does adding a steel shell to Goodra-Hisui make it so unviable that Goodra is extinct in modern day Sinnoh? And if it didn't go extinct, where the fuck did it go? It's literally Japan. Did they ship every single Hisuian Goodra species member out of the region to some place we don't even know???
Where's the fossils??? We can revive Pokemon from BONES and you're telling me not even a single Hisuian Growlithe exists in modern Sinnoh? Shit, they'd probably breed that species into being the dominant dog Pokemon frankly, why is that shit not around? We have a British Professor and you're telling me that dog isn't even in Galar, but it's not in modern Sinnoh it's just following one random woman of Hisuian heritage. In broad daylight.
Which by the way, makes no fucking sense, since Hisuian Pokemon are just Sinnoh Pokemon. Like 90% of the dex is the same between the two games. What happened to Hisuian Growlithe that only a descendant could have one right now? and how does that even work? Are Hisuian people so disconnected from modern Sinnoh that the scientists don't know there's a fucking dog?
How is Hisuian Braviary not everywhere? It's just the hawk from Unova but with more superpowers how is that shit not dominating the ecosystem? If a furred Flying Eagle with Psychic Powers that can Fly Humans Easily can't make it in this environment, how the fuck did Staraptor manage? Did the humans hunt all the Braviary but just none of the Staraptors that are going to be easier to hunt because they don't have Psychic Powers?
The litmus test for a retcon isn't "how do we (the audience) make shit up to justify it backwards" it's "does this make sense when you view it chronologically", if the actual writers made an effort to justify it, and no, Hisuian Pokemon do not make sense chronologically. The moment you have to just dismiss baseline logic to say it's not a retcon is when it's still actually a retcon, or so close that it's splitting hairs to have it be a retcon.
The only real counter-arguments here are to just say that despite clearly being based on very real time periods in a series that's always tried to have year dates kinda similar to IRL, that this isn't applicable because it's a fictional universe and that somehow all of this is just handwaved. And yes, I know I am thinking way more than I'm supposed to-
but that's literally my point in the first place, there are far less questions you would have to ask for Mega Greninja to be Ash Greninja than to answer like 10 questions for why Hisui is like this in an interesting fashion
(btw I'm not angry at you pika LOL this is more me ranting just in general on the topic, I'm really not a big fan of Hisui as a lore nerd)
Ash Greninja featured more prominently in Pokemon media than probably like 15 Megas combined. Like what. The anime? Major character. The games? One of the big reasons to play the demo, also broken ass Pokemon.Eh, ash greninja has been erased from so much stuff, the mega would feel less like greninja x and y and more like a redesign/replacement. I also dont think ash greninja ever got much fanfare or care, especially when it got beat the fuck up in the anime and never showed up again after, both in the anime, games or outside material. if anything id compare it to spiky ear pichu
mega charizard z and mega charizard amega charizard z soon btw
That sort of thing happens all the time in our world including animals from Hokkaido. Just because conservation existed doesn't mean they were good at it, or even that it was as widespread as it is now. It can be something as simple as introduction of other species that outcompete the locals, a change in environment that removes something necessary, or just plain old overhunting/fishing. And even then, a lot of it could be not being around in Sinnoh but being around in other places such as Basculin/Basculegion in Kitakami and the Hisuian Growlith Perrin has.No I'm sorry this is still dumb because it was definitely unknown to the entire Sinnoh dex as well lol
Same with any other retcon of different evos to old Pokemon. You can't tell me this is a universe with scientists that can make a fucking Link Cable between Universes (Canonically) but don't know about a Fucking Bear.
At least with most regional forms we can say "They didn't talk about Galarian Yamask because that doesn't live in Unova", but when it's literally the same region but like 150 years ago (remember, Hisui takes place around a time period based around 1850-1910, while from developer timelines Sinnoh takes place in the 2000s because it was based somewhat on modern culture - that is way too short of a time for scientists to just forget about this entire species, let alone before the concept of conservation considering the first Japanese conservation forest existed in 1897 IRL) it's just dumb.
For a lot of these Hisuian Pokemon to not exist in modern day Sinnoh, you'd have to justify it by saying that even through things like conservation efforts somehow in like < 150 years the environments shifted enough to make them all go extinct. This obviously doesn't make sense because there is nothing that makes Hisuian Pokemon less viable as a species ecologically thanI'm sorry.