NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

is there a way to doctor lookout results? either that, or the killer had some detection immunity, which hints at a godfather in the setup
 
is there a way to doctor lookout results? either that, or the killer had some detection immunity, which hints at a godfather in the setup
yeah i think godfather makes the most sense here- but why would roxie self target unless they are trans? but if they were trans, i checked the prio sheet, trans goes before invest
 
I can't be the only one reading "trans" in this thread as "transgender" initially, right?

I wonder why only one person died tonight when there's allegedly two killing factions in the game. Is that something to consider today, or do we not have enough data?

my current ideas would be:
- Both mafia and neutral killing happened to target the same person (poor roxie...)
- one or both factions can only kill on alternating nights?
- some sort of protection role fuckery

I'm also wondering if the mafia's use of a janitor role so early is indicative of it being multi-use, as it seems like kind of a waste to burn it so early?
 
I can't be the only one reading "trans" in this thread as "transgender" initially, right?
me too

yeah i think godfather makes the most sense here- but why would roxie self target unless they are trans? but if they were trans, i checked the prio sheet, trans goes before invest
worth noting that transporter does not count as a visitand so wouldnt have been picked up by dbd
 
I could see the neutral killing role being WW/Jugg/Arsonist and not killing N1 out of lack of ability to do so to be fair
 
If Alice claims who she visited, that'd be helpful, but otherwise I'd like to vote her
 
I can't be the only one reading "trans" in this thread as "transgender" initially, right?
Sorry it sounded clearer in my head lol, i posted w/o thinking mb
I wonder why only one person died tonight when there's allegedly two killing factions in the game. Is that something to consider today, or do we not have enough data?

my current ideas would be:
- Both mafia and neutral killing happened to target the same person (poor roxie...)
- one or both factions can only kill on alternating nights?

- some sort of protection role fuckery
DBD's point makes sense, iirc if both maf and nk kill the same target we would be told

I'm also wondering if the mafia's use of a janitor role so early is indicative of it being multi-use, as it seems like kind of a waste to burn it so early?
Janitor is 3 use according to the role sheet
 
I think i have an idea on what seems like a possible explanation.

My theory:
Someone transported roxie and someone else.
roxie and alice kazumi used janitor and a kill on whoever was transported with roxie, resulting in roxie dying, being janitored, and having a visit from themselves and alice kazumi.

It feels pretty unlikely but i think it perfectly explains what happened
 
I think i have an idea on what seems like a possible explanation.

My theory:
Someone transported roxie and someone else.
roxie and alice kazumi used janitor and a kill on whoever was transported with roxie, resulting in roxie dying, being janitored, and having a visit from themselves and alice kazumi.

It feels pretty unlikely but i think it perfectly explains what happened
I'm not sure why Roxie would have been targeted otherwise. I advise the Transporter to put their N1 target in their Last Will.
 
I answered my own question in the document, janitor gets three clean killings.

The following roles could feasibly target themselves and at least have some reason for doing so, or at least don't say they cannot self-target:

- Town Lookout
- Town Spy
- Town Doctor
- Town Bodyguard
- Town Crusader
- Neutral Evil Dignitary
- Certain other roles such as archer could target themselves, but would basically be a death sentence?

is it mechanically possible within this setup to have both a janitor and a godfather take the kill on the same night? A lot of these town roles can be ruled out if that happens.
 
I answered my own question in the document, janitor gets three clean killings.

The following roles could feasibly target themselves and at least have some reason for doing so, or at least don't say they cannot self-target:

- Town Lookout
- Town Spy
- Town Doctor
- Town Bodyguard
- Town Crusader
- Neutral Evil Dignitary
- Certain other roles such as archer could target themselves, but would basically be a death sentence?

is it mechanically possible within this setup to have both a janitor and a godfather take the kill on the same night? A lot of these town roles can be ruled out if that happens.
Last post before I head to bed: Random Mafia or Mafia Killing appear in all three mafia setups. All two-role combinations are possible.
 
I answered my own question in the document, janitor gets three clean killings.

The following roles could feasibly target themselves and at least have some reason for doing so, or at least don't say they cannot self-target:

- Town Lookout
- Town Spy
- Town Doctor
- Town Bodyguard
- Town Crusader
- Neutral Evil Dignitary
- Certain other roles such as archer could target themselves, but would basically be a death sentence?

is it mechanically possible within this setup to have both a janitor and a godfather take the kill on the same night? A lot of these town roles can be ruled out if that happens.
Bodyguard Crusader Doctor Dignitary all would've either killed the attacker or survived. Lookout and Spy could've viably self targeted although i think lookout should target someone else to catch kills
 
I think i have an idea on what seems like a possible explanation.

My theory:
Someone transported roxie and someone else.
roxie and alice kazumi used janitor and a kill on whoever was transported with roxie, resulting in roxie dying, being janitored, and having a visit from themselves and alice kazumi.

It feels pretty unlikely but i think it perfectly explains what happened
This seems quite possible- i do want to wait for alice to get on before voting because this seems super convulted considering dbd could be just lying
 
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