NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

ok am I dumb or something so how did Roxie die then lol

I'm guessing doctor does something different than what I understand it to mean
roxie (doctor), dbd (lookout, alice (investigator) targeted hydro

godfather and janitor targeted roxie

hydro and roxie were transported so the mafia kill/cleaned roxie and roxies doctor went to hydro
 
roxie (doctor), dbd (lookout, alice (investigator) targeted hydro

godfather and janitor targeted roxie

hydro and roxie were transported so the mafia kill/cleaned roxie and roxies doctor went to hydro
but hydro wasn't transported? where are you seeing that. des has been saying they transported dbd
 
but hydro wasn't transported? where are you seeing that. des has been saying they transported dbd
Being targeted by transporter is announced and hydro claimed he was transported

Alice’s result doesn’t match DBD’s claim so unless 2/3 players are lying there’s a second transporter

Des claimed her transport failed
 
oh ok thanks I think I understand.

I would put money on there being another transporter but it's surprising to me there hasn't been hints of that even via whispers.

I have to go to bed. I will try and be back before deadline. actually feeling pretty good about the thinking involved so for even though we don't really have a clear vote target. if we don't get evidence of a second transporter I think we need to look at picking one of the opposed players
 
but hydro wasn't transported? where are you seeing that. des has been saying they transported dbd
Hydro claims being transported. Des claims that she transported Roxie and DBD but it failed because one of them was already transported. DBD claims not transported. Nobody else claimed transported. Ergo, Hydro and Roxie were transported successfully
 
Ok cross referencing Alice’s result with the setup info there’s an extremely probable chance we’re in Confusion Delusion setup which is appropriate (if everyone’s telling the truth)

In general 2 transporters is far likelier in that setup than elsewhere, but the list of roles she received is 1/3 town investigative, 1/3 mafia deception or support, and 1/3 town support

the only other real option is actually Mafia’s day off, but with 2 town investigatives and 2 town supports already claimed we’d be burning through the random town slots pretty fast. Feels relatively unlikely to me.

Lmk if I’m wrong
 
Hydro claims being transported. Des claims that she transported Roxie and DBD but it failed because one of them was already transported. DBD claims not transported. Nobody else claimed transported. Ergo, Hydro and Roxie were transported successfully
And expanding on this to respond to Celever:

Hydro and Roxie being transported means the kill was targeted at Hydro. Ergo, Hydro is not mafia.

DBD targeted Roxie with Lookout, Alice targeted Roxie with investigator. Because of the transport, both actually hit Hydro. Alice's investigator result is the invest one, which doesn't contain any neutrals. Ergo, Hydro is not a neutral.

So hydro has to be town unless both he and Alice are lying.
 
And expanding on this to respond to Celever:

Hydro and Roxie being transported means the kill was targeted at Hydro. Ergo, Hydro is not mafia.

DBD targeted Roxie with Lookout, Alice targeted Roxie with investigator. Because of the transport, both actually hit Hydro. Alice's investigator result is the invest one, which doesn't contain any neutrals. Ergo, Hydro is not a neutral.

So hydro has to be town unless both he and Alice are lying.
oh that’s lowk kinda real lol
 
I think the current claims do fully fit into the slots that all setups share, but I agree that two transporters is significantly more likely in confusion delusion than the other 3
 
I think the current claims do fully fit into the slots that all setups share, but I agree that two transporters is significantly more likely in confusion delusion than the other 3
I’m ngl I wrote most of the post looking at setups on my phone before I noticed the 3 extra global random town and the amount of phone tab changes I had to do while working on it made me ship it despite noticing in the hope that it’s still correct

I think it’s worth operating under the assumption of confusion delusion until we have reason to think otherwise atm
 
Joey sent me a good whisper can confirm

Icl I’m kinda sad whispers are being used for gameplay bc this thread has seemed productive

Esp if the whisperer is a transporter claiming to people but not the class bc they’re prob gonna die anyway lol

But I guess we just need some degree of confirmation from someone that the second transporter is real, which we largely already have
 
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