NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

it is not going to be said that i confirmed a second transporter. i just had a whisper convo at some point that seemed inexplicable unless there was a second transporter.
 
That’s actually so real, they probably were lol

It’s like, not an established way for it to fail that’s where a lot of the confusion has been stemming from

You for sure said you were yesterday but that’s fine. What was your exact message? Was it just like a vague “Your action failed”?
Yea action failed basically the target was already transported
 
Here is Alice readlist #2. This was really hard to make because most of the content by everyone is reactive.

Hydro

Assuming he is saying the truth and there is a second transporter he is likely town from a mechanic perspective. He has been inactive and questionable at times when he has come online in the thread so I'd like him to step up a bit.

Miyami


Good activity but toned it down a bit and became a bit confused with mechanics when every talk has been about it. Considering she is new, or so I think, she has been a really good chat pressence. I don't think she can be blamed for focusing mostly in what's in front of her, the mech talk, when far more experienced players have done the same.

Jalmont

Seems like he is back in his do nothing early era to not get voted out. At least his content is forgettable. Funnily enough this catches scumleans like joey's one. I don't know how to rate this slot because while he did that as town every time this is not helpful for town so wake up if you are town.

Joey

Definitely a solid presence in thread and the second person that notice that we have to think outside of the four players we have been talking about the entire day or we lose. Do not fully agree with his readlist, dbd towncore is extremely questionable and he called me out for my content being mechanical when I'm the one that has given thoughts about other players and pushed for other things. I only think he would be scum if he was paired with someone like dbd or ecat.

Electricitycat

His 143 post as I said earlier in my previous list is not the best. Says a bunch of things but leaves everything ambiguous, I remember his town posts in previous games having more confidence. I think if he is not town this behaviour comes from third party and not mafia as he has experience as mafia. It would have been my top candidate for vote but he feels far better today, he makes a solid point with his post 390 and his follow up.

Celever


Jumping a bit too much into the mechanic aspect when in other games he has expressed his dislike for mechanic based days and that it doesn't help town that much, he even called me out for "ruining a day" on team galactic mafia. This behaviour plus making crazy theories like in post 287 when I haven't opened a dm with anyone yet. He is still looks more solvey than your average player in this playerlist but doesn't look like it comes from a town point of view. Calling transporter to claim in 181 only adds fuel to the fire. I'm getting paranoid with this slot.

Evie

Like I said earlier she feels reserved, checked her posts and yeah could be both newbie town and newbie scum, her behaviour is reasonable from both sides. Hard to read right now. She is not worth focusing right now as she is too hard to read because of lack of meta.


Aura Guardian

This looks like his standard behaviour as town which to surprise of no one catches scumreads as I've been reading while elaborating this list. A bunch of couples of posts here and there reacting to the thread and then (hopefully) becoming more involved later on when he is usually on the POE. The thing is this is extremely easy to replicate as mafia so if anyone has his meta as mafia I'm interested in it. So far I've only seen him as town.

AirC

Similar to Evie but gives far better vibes somehow. I think it's because he started slower but has been ramping up in confidence which either means he is town or third party. I don't think a mafia new player has this ramping up behavior. So statistically above average town.

Dead by daylight


His content so far is basically him saying his result, not trying to get past it and thinking outside of that would get punished normally but because that's what most players here talk about it's normal and doesn't stand out. He is either lookout or recon. Well he could have a a mafia teammate as a recon but that doesn't make sense and would complicate things for them in case an investigator exists. He can't be third party.


Des121

240 and 244 are weird. The late claim from 332 after dbd said he got no notification in 310 is off as well but not unheard from des. Then contradicting herself in post 364 and 439 ?? Des if you are town please be more clear when expressing yourself, you do not look good with those posts. I know something similar has happened before with claims but it's still not optimal.


Lechen


This feels too reactive for his mafia meta. Too many one liners that seems like the previous game as town when he was busy. This, however, is like in aura guardian case a bit too easy to replicate as scum. I don't sense any agenda behind his behavior unlike in celever's case but has not been proactive enough to townlean.


A fairy


Again more reactive behaviour and similar vibes to celever jumping in at a similar time. However her post 352 makes her townier than him. I don't know I can never read her. I can't even make an analysis properly yet when I can do it in other slots with less activity.
 
Alice it’s because closed setup vs open / semi-open setup play differently, the latter forces players to solve via mech more (if it’s a mech heavy game which this is)
 
A fairy

Again more reactive behaviour and similar vibes to celever jumping in at a similar time. However her post 352 makes her townier than him. I don't know I can never read her. I can't even make an analysis properly yet when I can do it in other slots with less activity.
Just received a dm from a fairy saying she is town so she gets added to the towncore.
 
Alice it’s because closed setup vs open / semi-open setup play differently, the latter forces players to solve via mech more (if it’s a mech heavy game which this is)
I'm not satisfied with this explanation! :puff: And most smogon games have too much mech no matter if open or closed other than the one you hosted from what I remember.
 
I'm not satisfied with this explanation! :puff: And most smogon games have too much mech no matter if open or closed other than the one you hosted from what I remember.
Also Hydro did whisper with me like when the game immediately started (not since) and in it talked about whispering with you already which explains 287 (just looked up the post lol)

Most Smogon games have a lot of mech but closed setup mechsolving sucks due to the variables and assumptions most of the time. Town basically lost Lumiose because they assumed there wouldn’t be 2 town roleblockers and there were for example

Half the time I’m mech solving but my thread presence is dominated by “nono that mech solving rabbit hole doesn’t work” bc of this kinda thing, it’s just that when in closed setup that includes more “mech solving is altogether bad because by going down this rabbit hole it pressures claims / PoEs role possibilities for scum that they’re probably not doing themselves” and that’s actual town strategy to not do that

I think if you compared me this game with prior open / semi-open games you’d see similarity bc I’m a relatively consistent player in approach but I’m not your teacher I can’t give you homework :boi:
 
Damn yall got whispers?
I'll probably go to sleep in around 1 or 2 hours so I'll try to submit my vote before that, from what I understood skipping now is not great right?
 
Damn yall got whispers?
I'll probably go to sleep in around 1 or 2 hours so I'll try to submit my vote before that, from what I understood skipping now is not great right?
Do you have a discord perchance? Would much rather whisper there than on here

As for NVing day 1, I don’t like it especially when there are slots we can flip Toronto
 
no voting here is prob bad but equally my bones are saying des is town so :mehowth:

I predict an AG wagon tbh but I'm not sure how I feel about that now that the Hydro connection I noticed is like, not a real thing
 
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