I hate you.
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Smogoff Hating Thread, Find Hate Here
- Thread starter Let's go shuckles
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As Smogoff's biggest hater, this thread is mid
I hate hating on hating on hate
HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.
I prefer smhogators
We need a Smogon version of the Playa Haters’ Ball
Nominations include:
Ghosting for a teammate during SPL, then tricking the TDs into banning only the teammate
Reporting a troll post in Policy Review, not because it was the right thing to do, but for being jealous of all the reacts it was getting
Calling in a DDoS to Smogtours during a Charity Bowl
Nominations include:
Ghosting for a teammate during SPL, then tricking the TDs into banning only the teammate
Reporting a troll post in Policy Review, not because it was the right thing to do, but for being jealous of all the reacts it was getting
Calling in a DDoS to Smogtours during a Charity Bowl
i hate this idea
"And people say it's well known - being nice costs you nothing. But to that I counter - hating also costs you nothing."
- Luka Levi
- Luka Levi
Dang Phoopes beat me to posting the Chapelle clip. He did it again
I will add "complaining that a mon takes no skill to win with, then voting not to ban it so you can keep winning with it"
Also "I'd like to thank the RNG for giving everybody else so much, and me so little"
I will add "complaining that a mon takes no skill to win with, then voting not to ban it so you can keep winning with it"
Also "I'd like to thank the RNG for giving everybody else so much, and me so little"
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I hate you too
I hate Pokémon Sword & Shield with a burning passion. In fact, I absolutely despise Pokémon Sword & Shield, and the only reason I ever got Sword was because it was given to me for Christmas in 2019 and I never had a single reason to purchase Shield, especially ever since we learned how unbalanced Zacian was compared to her younger brother Zamazenta. Everything about the game ranging from the region’s design to the poorly written human characters to the forgettable new Pokémon to the reused Pokémon models to the slashed National PokéDex and everything in between that you can think of, I hate all of it. I could probably make an entire thread detailing everything I hate about this absolute abomination of a video game. Even calling it that feels generous, seeing that calling this a video game implies that this is a product that costs actual money that I could justify selling to another person for a reasonable price.
I didn’t use feel this way, though. Back in 2020-21, the game was… barely tolerable, at least. I did actually purchase the DLC for my Sword cartridge, but only so I could try and do some of the Dynamax Adventures. I did attempt to give team building in this game a fair shot, but I got so bored so quickly that I ended up boxing my entire team (all two or three Pokémon I had) in favor of wanting to speedrun through the rest of the game with a significantly overlevelled Gyarados and a copious amount of Exp. Candies to make it happen. There are actually more than three Pokémon added in the Galar region that I would say I at least kind of like- I tend to like the Water-Type starters a decent amount no matter what region I’m playing, Galarian Zigzagoon’s up there with the old Zigzagoon and Patratit was my first full odds shiny in black 2, cut me some slack as my favorite earlygame regional rodent evolution line, I’m pretty sure Hatenna and possibly its evolutions might be autistic-coded and I think that’s neat, and my college roommate of four years ended up giving me an unironic appreciation for one of his favorite Pokémon, Urshifu, that I did not have prior to us meeting and bonding over a number of different games and topics.
As the years went on and I took another look at this game, deciding if I wanted to actually give Pokémon Sword a second, this time actually fair chance… yeah, no, I’m good. Even if I can’t say in good faith that the DLC is nearly as horrible as the base game, enjoying Pokémon Legends Arceus and Pokémon Scarlet & Violet and its own DLC more than I expected has only put more of a damper on what I consider Pokémon’s worst core series stretch from Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon to Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl. And even then, I only list Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon there because I’m still salty they weren’t true Unova-style sequels like I thought they could or should have been; without that specific context Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon are probably slightly better than the original Alola games overall. I have no such praise I can provide to what I consider the worst Pokémon region in my overall rankings, even if a couple other regions are slightly worse in specific areas of interest.
The only positive experience or memory I got out of these games was the fact that my 2019 calendar year in regards to the Pokémon franchise was, to put it lightly, absolutely freaking insane, and that had it not been for those specific moments earlier in the year that have unironically changed my life, I probably would not have been willing to give the franchise a second chance when the 2022 core series games would come out a couple years later. Seeing as Generation 8 saw the origin of the Pokémon Legends sub-series of games, I do think a Galar-focused Pokémon Legends game could improve upon the region and my perception of it while generally being a very thematically fitting idea for a Legends game. That does not increase my appreciation for the original iteration of Galar, however. If that logic were true, I would be much higher on all of the non-Platinum Sinnoh games, which I also strongly dislike but not quite as much as these 2019 games.
Let me summarize this post this way. You want to know how much I hate these games? I hate Pokémon Sword & Shield as much as I love Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs, a game that I’ve designated as both my favorite and my most nostalgic video game in existence and one of a select few games that I can say with confidence helped me become who I am today and helped prevent me from doing anything outlandishly stupid when my mental wellness started dropping rapidly during the early 2020s. The fact that I am physically capable of hating a work of fiction as much as I love the game that I am convinced was quite literally made for me should tell you something. The Pokémon franchise and the video game industry at large has had a disturbingly strong impact on not just my mental wellness and, if my discussions with my counselor are anything to go off of, actual threats of self-harm for a while there- yeah, how’s that for wrapping up a Smogoff post?- and while my mental wellness and the quality of my life have thankfully significantly improved since the early part of this decade, I can’t help but shake the feeling that Pokémon Sword & Shield were the start of a dark and disturbing trend for me that would only later materialize fully and make me understand that I wasn’t just overly attached and addicted to playing Nintendo games. I hated these games so much that I was willing to throw away everything the Pokémon franchise and Nintendo had done for me up to that point, and had I not made the decision to turn away from what was causing my irrational behaviors, fears, and causing me to become clinically depressed, things could have been much… much worse.
I didn’t use feel this way, though. Back in 2020-21, the game was… barely tolerable, at least. I did actually purchase the DLC for my Sword cartridge, but only so I could try and do some of the Dynamax Adventures. I did attempt to give team building in this game a fair shot, but I got so bored so quickly that I ended up boxing my entire team (all two or three Pokémon I had) in favor of wanting to speedrun through the rest of the game with a significantly overlevelled Gyarados and a copious amount of Exp. Candies to make it happen. There are actually more than three Pokémon added in the Galar region that I would say I at least kind of like- I tend to like the Water-Type starters a decent amount no matter what region I’m playing, Galarian Zigzagoon’s up there with the old Zigzagoon and Patrat
As the years went on and I took another look at this game, deciding if I wanted to actually give Pokémon Sword a second, this time actually fair chance… yeah, no, I’m good. Even if I can’t say in good faith that the DLC is nearly as horrible as the base game, enjoying Pokémon Legends Arceus and Pokémon Scarlet & Violet and its own DLC more than I expected has only put more of a damper on what I consider Pokémon’s worst core series stretch from Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon to Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl. And even then, I only list Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon there because I’m still salty they weren’t true Unova-style sequels like I thought they could or should have been; without that specific context Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon are probably slightly better than the original Alola games overall. I have no such praise I can provide to what I consider the worst Pokémon region in my overall rankings, even if a couple other regions are slightly worse in specific areas of interest.
The only positive experience or memory I got out of these games was the fact that my 2019 calendar year in regards to the Pokémon franchise was, to put it lightly, absolutely freaking insane, and that had it not been for those specific moments earlier in the year that have unironically changed my life, I probably would not have been willing to give the franchise a second chance when the 2022 core series games would come out a couple years later. Seeing as Generation 8 saw the origin of the Pokémon Legends sub-series of games, I do think a Galar-focused Pokémon Legends game could improve upon the region and my perception of it while generally being a very thematically fitting idea for a Legends game. That does not increase my appreciation for the original iteration of Galar, however. If that logic were true, I would be much higher on all of the non-Platinum Sinnoh games, which I also strongly dislike but not quite as much as these 2019 games.
Let me summarize this post this way. You want to know how much I hate these games? I hate Pokémon Sword & Shield as much as I love Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs, a game that I’ve designated as both my favorite and my most nostalgic video game in existence and one of a select few games that I can say with confidence helped me become who I am today and helped prevent me from doing anything outlandishly stupid when my mental wellness started dropping rapidly during the early 2020s. The fact that I am physically capable of hating a work of fiction as much as I love the game that I am convinced was quite literally made for me should tell you something. The Pokémon franchise and the video game industry at large has had a disturbingly strong impact on not just my mental wellness and, if my discussions with my counselor are anything to go off of, actual threats of self-harm for a while there- yeah, how’s that for wrapping up a Smogoff post?- and while my mental wellness and the quality of my life have thankfully significantly improved since the early part of this decade, I can’t help but shake the feeling that Pokémon Sword & Shield were the start of a dark and disturbing trend for me that would only later materialize fully and make me understand that I wasn’t just overly attached and addicted to playing Nintendo games. I hated these games so much that I was willing to throw away everything the Pokémon franchise and Nintendo had done for me up to that point, and had I not made the decision to turn away from what was causing my irrational behaviors, fears, and causing me to become clinically depressed, things could have been much… much worse.
If you did take some time out of your day to read all of that, thank you. Really. And if you didn’t, that’s okay too. I won’t hold it against you. By that last paragraph I just found myself really wanting to open up and speak out about something I don’t normally like to talk to other people about. I know Smogoff is usually the “comedic relief”, intentionally joking part of Smogon, but sometimes hate is a serious topic that can bring out the worst in people, as I saw with myself and my attitude for some time even if the quality of my life was never that bad, relatively speaking.
That being said, the word “hate” can also be used in comedic, sometimes even uplifting ways depending on the context, so with that being said, I hate… uh… I hate when I can’t come up with a good punchline for a joke, does that count?
then why are you still here
i think ss ou is pretty fun
SS was good prior to the dracovish ban. I'll never forgive them for banning shuckle's best partner
This generation of OU is unironically one of the things I feel like I can actually enjoy from this part of the franchise, and I don’t mind the more defensively oriented teams and playstyles.
More than anything though, I am obligated as one of my favorite Pokémon game’s biggest fans on this entire site to mention that Gen 8 OU is the only metagame where one can use an Eruption Heatran to its fullest potential thanks to the nature Mints or whatever those items were called. We were this close to having the set return in full, all they had to do was make Eruption into a TR, and that right there might have singlehandledly shot Sword & Shield or it’s DLC up an entire tier on its own. Instead, it remains exclusive to the event I never got to play growing up and they removed it from Heatran’s movepool entirely in Scarlet & Violet. sigh
Wait a minute, you have a profile pic from Guardian signs and you didn't play the heatran event for that game? For shame.
Gen 8 was so bad it led to an entire parallel set of metagames refusing to go along with its worst aspect, where you can use Modest Eruption Heatran to your heart's content. You don't need to accept the quarter measure compromise Corporate unilaterally decided on. Go, and be free.
I was wondering when someone was going to point this out. Unfortunately this is true, and in the theme of this thread, I’ve always hated that this was true. I’ve seen all of the Ranger events from each game, as well as the Ranger episodes from the anime, but our family didn’t have unlimited data for Internet access until 2014. Me and my siblings weren’t allowed to use any of our limited data plan for video games, but even if we could, our Internet connection was never supported by Nintendo Wi-Fi connection anyways. Somehow I did manage to download two of the six Ranger Net missions from Guardian Signs back in the day, specifically the Giratina and Arceus missions, but that was only because those events never actually had a discontinuation date as opposed to the four missions where you could transfer in various Pokémon. Eagle-eyed fans may have also noticed that I missed the entirety of Mario Kart Wii’s online multiplayer scene for the same reason, but I actually prefer the modern Wiimmfi fan servers for that game anyway.
TLDR; I had no control over these decisions growing up and to this day I’ve debated with myself on whether I can even call myself a Ranger superfan because of that. This is also why I was hoping to see the return of various event exclusive moves in later generations, something that to Sword & Shield’s credit we did actually see with the ExtremeSpeed Legendary Beasts. (I’ll have to double check, but I believe Scarlet & Violet brought back Guardian Signs’s Meteor Mash Deoxys set too when they added the new TM for it.)