"my favourite pokemon is maractus"

Divine Retribution said:
Maractus is so forgettable that it's known for being the most forgettable Pokemon... making it not really all that forgettable after all.
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the real most forgettable pokemon is illumise. not only are those weird BW bugs super forgettable but illumise is so incredibly overshadowed by volbeat who actually has a competitive niche that it's not even funny.
 
Illumise being tied to Volbeat naturally makes it harder to forget because if you recall one you will recall the other.

The most forgettable pokemon, imo, would generally fit these criteria:
  • Are single stage, with no evolutionary tree to speak of
  • Aren't legendary or mythical
  • Have no counterpart pokemon that they are naturally tied to
  • Have no alternate forms or megas
  • Have no gimmicks
  • Aren't notorious for some other reason
This would make them hard to recall as there are neither aspects that would make them memorable nor have anything tied to them that you may also remember. Maractus does fulfil all these criteria, as would fellow gen 5 mons Sigilyph, Bouffalant and Cryogonal. For gen 3 this would be Tropius and Relicanth. This isn't a perfect set of criteria, but I still think this is a good place to start.
 
I don't think being single stage is really all that big of a factor for being forgettable. I regard Beheeyem and Lumineon as some of the most forgettable Pokemon and they're two-stage evolutions.

This is a competitive site so I'd add a lack of competitive viability to the list of "forgettable criteria". Some Pokemon should be extremely forgettable but have certain competitive niches that mean that nearly every competitive player is familiar with them. Gothitelle comes to mind as the poster child for this; most competitive players know it as the main reason Shadow Tag was banned, but if you're mainly a casual/in-game player where Shadow Tag is basically not an ability, why would you ever give Gothitelle a second thought? However, this has to be a sort of curve that peaks at low viability, but not no viability, because if a Pokemon is bad enough it becomes well known for being terrible (see Delibird, Luvdisc, etc) and therefore not forgettable. Maractus, again, fits this criteria perfectly. It's bad competitively, bad enough that you probably wouldn't consider using it even in the lowest tiers, but it's not Luvdisc levels of bad. You could conceivably win a game with it if the stars all lined up.

There's also an x-factor that I can't really quantify based on how often a Pokemon appears in other media. Wigglytuff, for example, seems like an incredibly forgettable Pokemon, overshadowed by counterparts with similar designs in Clefable and Chansey, but given Wigglytuff's notable role in PMD2, the objectively best game TPC has ever managed to produce, it's not exactly a forgettable Pokemon for a significant portion of the fanbase. I don't watch the anime and I don't play most of the new spinoff games though so I have no idea what otherwise forgettable Pokemon might be given a spotlight there.
 
mysticmarshtomp said:
but then you come to pokemon being remembered because of how forgotten they are, pokemon such as heatmor
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I’d argue that based off the criteria that Mechalico listed, Heatmor wouldn’t count because it’s tied to Durant. I always think of the two of them as a pair, anyway. My nomination based off the above criteria was going to be something like Bruxish, but I think that might be too notable for being heinously ugly. Maractus might just be the choice tbh
 
Mechalico said:
Illumise being tied to Volbeat naturally makes it harder to forget because if you recall one you will recall the other.

The most forgettable pokemon, imo, would generally fit these criteria:
  • Are single stage, with no evolutionary tree to speak of
  • Aren't legendary or mythical
  • Have no counterpart pokemon that they are naturally tied to
  • Have no alternate forms or megas
  • Have no gimmicks
  • Aren't notorious for some other reason
This would make them hard to recall as there are neither aspects that would make them memorable nor have anything tied to them that you may also remember. Maractus does fulfil all these criteria, as would fellow gen 5 mons Sigilyph, Bouffalant and Cryogonal. For gen 3 this would be Tropius and Relicanth. This isn't a perfect set of criteria, but I still think this is a good place to start.
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Some of these are still notable on competitive grounds. Tropius is known to be weird good in Random Battles, for instance. You probably can't include every single format equally in the rankings, but I think we need to at least consider Randbats, NatDex, and the main usage based tiers.

It's also worth considering whether there are other, more notable mons that they naturally compare to. A Pokémon like Bouffalant is less like to be thought of, because if you're thinking of bovine Pokémon, you're going to think of Tauros and Miltank first. On the other hand, if you're part of an archetype (eg, route one birds), you might remember them when going through that category. So the peak would be a Pokémon that belongs in a highly saturated category that isn't widely recognized. Finneon is a good example there: there are many Pokémon that are basically just a fish, but people don't tend to group "generic fish Pokémon" together as an expected element of any given generation.

In this vein, Maractus shares its concept with the Cacnea line, but it's not clear to me which one is more notable. Maractus is cuter at least.
 
mysticmarshtomp said:
who the hell is steve jobs
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Let's go shuckles said:
I think the most forgettable pokemon are the middle evolutions. I remember Meowscarada. I remember Sprigatito. What the fuck is its middle form?
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Sprigatito is pretty popular, plus casual players will probably remember most second stage starters because they stuck with it for like 20 levels
 
Quaxwell is hard for me to forget because my name is Maxwell. They named a fucking duck after me. Honestly it could be worse.

I think the Gen 6 starter middle stages are the most forgettable. I can't name a single one of them.
 
is there something in the water in america? you've been on this multi-national, multi-lingual website for over 10 years and you still have it in you to get performatively mad that foreigners sometimes don't do things the same way that you do? do you know that the 'color' spelling is particular to the us and canada, and that the majority of english speakers worldwide spell the word as 'colour'? do you care? do you think it's a good look for you, as a citizen of a hegemonic, militaristic, imperialist nation and supposed leftist, to be so randomly hostile towards people who spell words differently from you, even as a joke? grow up.
 
MAMP said:
do you think it's a good look for you, as a citizen of a hegemonic, militaristic, imperialist nation and supposed leftist, to be so randomly hostile towards people who spell words differently from you, even as a joke? grow up.
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I was so ready to be sympathetic to 'british / american / french / etc. spotted!!!' being passé, (because, as a bit to strangers outside of one's friend circle, it is, even if DR kills the delivery with his sincerity), but you've lost me

I have sometimes lacked mirth in my past decade on the internet. Perhaps even at this very moment! And I have not brought out the dictionary this hard for the non-americans joking about american kids dying in school shootings

If existing in america + making a "lol brits!" joke is your standard for a Bad Leftist (if this "supposed" leftist even is one!), I shudder to think who is pure enough for your circle
 
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