Quality Control Nasty Plot Thundurus-Therian [QC 0/2] [GP 0/1]

Ayatou

Ayatou

[SET]
name: Nasty Plot Thundurus-T
move 1: Agility
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Focus Blast / Sludge Bomb / Tera Blast
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Volt Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 144 HP / 176 SpA / 188 Spe
tera type: Water / Steel / Flying

[SET COMMENTS]

Thundurus-T boasts the highest Special Attack stat in the tier, a wide variety of offensive moves and the ability to OHKO prevalent mainstays in the metagame after a diabolical Nasty Plot. Focus Blast is used as coverage to counter the Ground-type immunity to Electric-type moves, and ensuring an OHKO on Excadrill, that otherwise can stay on Thundurus-T. Other alternatives are Sludge Bomb to hit Latios neutrally or damage Fairy-types and Tera Fairy users, and Tera Blast Flying or Water to grant him amplified Flying STAB or another way to OHKO Ground-types with Tera Water. Tera Steel is to prevent threats such as Ogerpon-C and Latios from interrupting the offensive momentum. The EV spread is optimized as 188 Spe ensures Thundurus-T outspeeds every common threat in the metagame at +2 Speed. With Tera Water, Thundurus-T can tank Surf from Battle Bond Greninja, increase its speed to outspeed it, and OHKO back with Thunderbolt. 176 SpA are to guarantee an OHKO on Metagross, and the rest are invested into HP to ensure enough longevity to setup both Agility and Nasty Plot successfully and rampage through the opponent's team. Sitrus Berry amplifies said longevity, as the berry's recovery is crucial on ensuring Thundurus-T can reach the ideal sweeping position without fainting.

Nasty Plot Thundurus-T is a staple of Hyper Offensive teams, that specialize in pressuring the opponent's resources into opening an opportunity for Thundurus-T and other threats to wreck havoc on the foe. Thundurus-T is greatly complemented by hazard setters, such as Excadrill to help weaken foes that otherwise can tank a +2 Thunderbolt, and cause it to OHKO. for example against bulky Heatran and Fezandipiti sets. Excadrill and other users of Rapid Spin help Thundurus-T not take 25% from Stealth Rock and stay healthy in the setup process. Thundurus-T has checks that boast high SpD or a Thunderbolt resistance, such as Latios and Tyranitar, they are greatly pressured by fast, offensive threats like Greninja and Lokix, that prove to be crucial partners for Thundurus-T. Physical threats such as Azumarill, Ogerpon and Ogerpon-C help at overpowering Ground-types such as Excadrill and Sandy Shocks, and Unaware users such as Clodsire and Skeledirge, that prove to be incredible counters to Nasty Plot Thundurus-T.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
Ayatou
Quality checked by:
OceanicGamer
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/
 
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[SET]
name: Nasty Plot Thundurus-T
move 1: Agility
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Focus Blast / Sludge Bomb / Tera Blast
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Volt Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 144 HP / 176 SpA / 188 Spe
tera type: Water / Steel / Flying

[SET COMMENTS]

Thundurus-T boasts the highest Special Attack stat in the tier, a wide variety of offensive moves and the ability to OHKO prevalent mainstays in the metagame after a diabolical Nasty Plot. Thundurus-T, with his extremely high Special Attack, elevates that to terrifying levels using Nasty Plot. (there was nothing wrong here, just rewriting it a bit). Focus Blast is used as coverage to counter the Ground-type immunity to Electric-type moves, and ensuring an OHKO on Excadrill, that otherwise can stay on Thundurus-T. Focus Blast is used to hit and remove Exacdrill, as well as cleaning OHKOing specially defensive Heatran and Tyranitar after a a Nasty Plot. Other alternatives are Sludge Bomb to hit Latios neutrally or damage Fairy-types and Tera Fairy users, (not really significant I feel like, the Fairy types in UU are either weak to Thunderbolt or get OHKOed after a Nasty Plot anyway. No Hydrapple mention either is strange) and Tera Blast Flying or Water to grant him amplified Flying STAB or another way to OHKO Ground-types with Tera Water. Tera Steel is to prevent threats such as Ogerpon-C and Latios from interrupting the offensive momentum. The EV spread is optimized as 188 Spe ensures Thundurus-T outspeeds every common threat in the metagame at +2 Speed. With Tera Water, Thundurus-T can tank Surf from Battle Bond Greninja, increase its speed to outspeed it, and OHKO back with Thunderbolt. 176 SpA are to guarantee an OHKO on Metagross, and the rest are invested into HP to ensure enough longevity to setup both Agility and Nasty Plot successfully and rampage through the opponent's team. Sitrus Berry amplifies said longevity, as the berry's recovery is crucial on ensuring Thundurus-T can reach the ideal sweeping position without fainting.

Nasty Plot Thundurus-T is a staple of Hyper Offensive teams, that specialize in pressuring the opponent's resources into opening an opportunity for Thundurus-T and other threats to wreck havoc on the foe. Thundurus-T is greatly complemented by hazard setters, such as Excadrill to help weaken foes that otherwise can tank a +2 Thunderbolt, and cause it to OHKO. for example against bulky Heatran and Fezandipiti sets. (You already mentioned hyper offense, i dont think you need this). Excadrill and other users of Rapid Spin help Thundurus-T not take 25% from Stealth Rock and stay healthy in the setup process. (You could mention Taunt leads as well). Thundurus-T has checks that boast high SpD or a Thunderbolt resistance, such as Latios and Tyranitar, (Both can be shaky checks depending on what coverage move you are running, so probably just remove this). they are greatly pressured by fast, offensive threats like Greninja and Lokix, (Expand on this point, Greninja and Thundy together overwhelm Tinkaton, and in general they punch holes for each other. Also I'm not sure if Lokix is the best example)that prove to be crucial partners for Thundurus-T. Physical threats such as Azumarill, Ogerpon and Ogerpon-C help at overpowering Ground-types such as Excadrill and Sandy Shocks, and Unaware users such as Clodsire and Skeledirge, that prove to be incredible counters to Nasty Plot Thundurus-T. (Clodsire is so extremely bad for Thundurus-T, I would probably mention something like Take Heart Manaphy or Air Balloon Revavroom that can freely switch into it)

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
Ayatou
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user2.102/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user3.103/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/

AMQC again!
 
OceanicGamer said:
[SET]
name: Nasty Plot Thundurus-T
move 1: Agility
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Focus Blast / Sludge Bomb / Tera Blast
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Volt Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 144 HP / 176 SpA / 188 Spe
tera type: Water / Steel / Flying

[SET COMMENTS]

Thundurus-T boasts the highest Special Attack stat in the tier, a wide variety of offensive moves and the ability to OHKO prevalent mainstays in the metagame after a diabolical Nasty Plot. Thundurus-T, with his extremely high Special Attack, elevates that to terrifying levels using Nasty Plot. (there was nothing wrong here, just rewriting it a bit). Focus Blast is used as coverage to counter the Ground-type immunity to Electric-type moves, and ensuring an OHKO on Excadrill, that otherwise can stay on Thundurus-T. Focus Blast is used to hit and remove Exacdrill, as well as cleaning OHKOing specially defensive Heatran and Tyranitar after a a Nasty Plot. Other alternatives are Sludge Bomb to hit Latios neutrally or damage Fairy-types and Tera Fairy users, (not really significant I feel like, the Fairy types in UU are either weak to Thunderbolt or get OHKOed after a Nasty Plot anyway. No Hydrapple mention either is strange) and Tera Blast Flying or Water to grant him amplified Flying STAB or another way to OHKO Ground-types with Tera Water. Tera Steel is to prevent threats such as Ogerpon-C and Latios from interrupting the offensive momentum. The EV spread is optimized as 188 Spe ensures Thundurus-T outspeeds every common threat in the metagame at +2 Speed. With Tera Water, Thundurus-T can tank Surf from Battle Bond Greninja, increase its speed to outspeed it, and OHKO back with Thunderbolt. 176 SpA are to guarantee an OHKO on Metagross, and the rest are invested into HP to ensure enough longevity to setup both Agility and Nasty Plot successfully and rampage through the opponent's team. Sitrus Berry amplifies said longevity, as the berry's recovery is crucial on ensuring Thundurus-T can reach the ideal sweeping position without fainting.

Nasty Plot Thundurus-T is a staple of Hyper Offensive teams, that specialize in pressuring the opponent's resources into opening an opportunity for Thundurus-T and other threats to wreck havoc on the foe. Thundurus-T is greatly complemented by hazard setters, such as Excadrill to help weaken foes that otherwise can tank a +2 Thunderbolt, and cause it to OHKO. for example against bulky Heatran and Fezandipiti sets. (You already mentioned hyper offense, i dont think you need this). Excadrill and other users of Rapid Spin help Thundurus-T not take 25% from Stealth Rock and stay healthy in the setup process. (You could mention Taunt leads as well). Thundurus-T has checks that boast high SpD or a Thunderbolt resistance, such as Latios and Tyranitar, (Both can be shaky checks depending on what coverage move you are running, so probably just reword this). they are greatly pressured by fast, offensive threats like Greninja and Lokix, (Expand on this point, Greninja and Thundy together overwhelm Tinkaton, and in general they punch holes for each other. Also I'm not sure if Lokix is the best example)that prove to be crucial partners for Thundurus-T. Physical threats such as Azumarill, Ogerpon and Ogerpon-C help at overpowering Ground-types such as Excadrill and Sandy Shocks, and Unaware users such as Clodsire and Skeledirge, that prove to be incredible counters to Nasty Plot Thundurus-T. (Clodsire is so extremely bad for Thundurus-T, I would probably mention something like Take Heart Manaphy or Air Balloon Revavroom that can freely switch into it)

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
Ayatou
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user2.102/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user3.103/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/

AMQC again!
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thanks again, will edit soon. added you as a credit again since i know those comments will help me a lot
 
Hello, im gonna add on to this since I think there's some good stuff in here

Since it's a lot cause there's like two people commenting and the set needs fixing, im gonna hold off on giving the check until this is completed so I can make a follow up. For future reference you don't add the AM QC as a credit, only add actual QC members

Additionally, when you talk about the EV spreads, just be aware despite the short hand on the sets themselves, we still call refer to them by their full name: Speed instead of Spe, Special Attack instead of SpA, etc.

for any changes I made, just look out for the parts in BOLD. Anything else regarding my own comments will be made with THIS COLOR

[SET]
name: Nasty Plot Thundurus-T
move 1: Agility
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Focus Blast / Sludge Bomb / Tera Blast
item: Sitrus Berry
ability: Volt Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 144 HP / 176 SpA / 188 Spe
tera type: Water / Steel / Flying

name: Nasty Plot Thundurus-T
- Thunderbolt
- Tera Blast / Focus Blast
- Agility
- Nasty Plot
item: Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 244 HP / 152 SpA / 12 SpD / 100 Spe
Tera Type: Flying / Steel

Mystras: for the sake of making things easier with the set we have on the damage calc currently, we are pushing what we have on the on-site analysis. Since the breakpoints are somewhat different for the EV Spread, I will mention when they are relevant to help out.


[SET COMMENTS]

Thundurus-T boasts the highest Special Attack stat in the tier, a wide variety of offensive moves and the ability to OHKO prevalent mainstays in the metagame after a diabolical Nasty Plot. Thundurus-T, with his extremely high Special Attack, elevates that to terrifying levels using Nasty Plot. (there was nothing wrong here, just rewriting it a bit). Focus Blast is used as coverage to counter the Ground-type immunity to Electric-type moves, and ensuring an OHKO on Excadrill, that otherwise can stay on Thundurus-T. Focus Blast is used to hit and remove Exacdrill, as well as cleaning OHKOing specially defensive Heatran and Tyranitar after a a Nasty Plot. Other alternatives are Sludge Bomb to hit Latios neutrally or damage Fairy-types and Tera Fairy users, and Mystras: as sludge bomb is not part of the on site set, so I've removed this part Tera Blast Flying or Water to grant him amplified Flying STAB or another way to OHKO Ground-types with Tera Water. Mystras: just remove the tera water mention and state that Tera Flying is a good removal tool for hydrapple and Zarude. Tera Steel is to prevent threats such as Ogerpon-C and Latios from interrupting the offensive momentum. The EV spread is optimized as 188 Spe ensures Thundurus-T outspeeds every common threat in the metagame at +2 Speed. 100 Speed EVs allow Thundurus-T to avoid being revenge killed by threats like Choice Scarf Latios or Ogerpon after an Agility. Mystras: changed to match what the onsite EV spread does With Tera Water, Thundurus-T can tank Surf from Battle Bond Greninja, increase its speed to outspeed it, and OHKO back with Thunderbolt. 176 SpA 144 Special Attack EVs are to guarantee an OHKO on Metagross offensive Heatran after a Nasty Plot and Stealth Rocks, and the rest are invested into HP to ensure enough longevity to setup both Agility and Nasty Plot successfully and rampage through the opponent's team. Sitrus Berry amplifies said longevity, as the berry's recovery is crucial on ensuring Thundurus-T can reach the ideal sweeping position without fainting.

Nasty Plot Thundurus-T is a staple of Hyper Offensive teams, that specialize in pressuring the opponent's resources into opening an opportunity for Thundurus-T and other threats to wreck havoc on the foe. Thundurus-T is greatly complemented by hazard setters, such as Excadrill to help weaken foes that otherwise can tank a +2 Thunderbolt, and cause it to OHKO. for example against such as bulky Heatran and Fezandipiti sets. (You already mentioned hyper offense, i dont think you need this). Mystras: I believe this is fine to keep as it does let new players understand what mons are relevant here Excadrill and other users of Rapid Spin help Thundurus-T not take 25% from Stealth Rock and stay healthy in the setup process. (You could mention Taunt leads as well). Thundurus-T has checks that boast high SpD Special Defense or a Thunderbolt resistance, such as Latios and Tyranitar, (Both can be shaky checks depending on coverage, so probably just remove this). Mystras: instead of removing, changing Tyranitar is probably better. Latios is fine to keep as it is rather difficult to handle unless tera steel. Tyranitar change to something like Clodsire works better. they are greatly pressured by fast, offensive threats like Greninja and Lokix, that prove to be crucial partners for Thundurus-T. (Expand on this point, Greninja and Thundy together overwhelm Tinkaton, and in general they punch holes for each other. Also I'm not sure if Lokix is the best example) Physical threats such as Azumarill, Ogerpon and Ogerpon-C help at overpowering Ground-types such as Excadrill and Sandy Shocks, and Unaware users such as Clodsire and Skeledirge, that prove to be incredible counters to Nasty Plot Thundurus-T. (Clodsire is so extremely bad for Thundurus-T, I would probably mention something like Take Heart Manaphy or Air Balloon Revavroom that can freely switch into it)

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
Ayatou
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user2.102/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user3.103/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user4.104/

Nice work on the AM check Oceanic, just be careful with adding rewrites like at the beginning cause it is more of a GP thing, which is out of our jurisdiction. You are allowed to make comments regarding whether or not a sentence is clear and make suggestions on how to improve it, but we mostly do not actually mess with the sentence structure unless absolutely necessary.

Also you could be a little more specific regarding potential Pokemon when making suggestions
ie; you mentioned taunt users, such as what? Grimmsnarl? Tornadus-T?
also you mentioned Lokix might not being the best example, what are some alternatives? furthermore, Lokix does have some value as a revenge killer so you could make an additional point about that.
 
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