Pokémon Movepool Oddities & Explanations

[Krockodile]

Wrap is not a tutor move like Bind has been, it's only learned via level up and usually early since it's bad. They weren't gonna make Bulbasaur worse in later gens, and it starting with Wrap in gen 1 would have been incredibly annoying to fight if you picked Charmander and painfully useless if you picked it.

Venusaur can learn Bind so would likely learn Wrap if it ever showed up as tutor or TM move.

But the Bulbasaur line can only learn Bind via Tutor in BW2, ORAS and USUM. BW2 was five generations after the Venusaur line was established, and it can never learn both Wrap or Bind in Gens 8 or 9. Not to mention that both Wrap and Bind were nerfed after Gen 1, so why couldn't Venusaur learn Wrap after Gen 2.

I also disagree on Venusaur not learning Wrap would have made it annoying in a playthrough because of its 80 speed. Plus, Erika's Victreebel and Tangela both have Wrap and Bind and whilst they aren't as fast fast, but they are also annoying if they also pull it off. So Venusaur should have learnt Wrap and it's not like it's the only broken move. Plus, wouldn't it also mean that the Charmander line shouldn't be able to learn Fire Spin in Gen 1 (even tho it does), which also works like Wrap in Gen 1?

 

[R_N]

But the Bulbasaur line can only learn Bind via Tutor in BW2, ORAS and USUM. BW2 was five generations after the Venusaur line was established, and it can never learn both Wrap or Bind in Gens 8 or 9. Not to mention that both Wrap and Bind were nerfed after Gen 1, so why couldn't Venusaur learn Wrap after Gen 2.

He acknowledges that Bind is a tutor move. Wrap isn't, and is only a level up move outside of Heatmor getting it by breeding. That's part of what he's putting forward: it's an awkward move to shove into the early learn set of a starter, like Bind, but would probably be learned if it was a tutor or TM move, also like Bind (& a bunch of other random early-game moves)

That said I do think it would be fine as an egg move. I mean have you seen some of those things? Lots of weird, very weak and outright useless moves pepper those egg learnsets. Splash is an egg move on 7 Pokemon lines and only one of those learns it naturally! I think they could easily extend wrap or bind a bit more

I also disagree on Venusaur not learning Wrap would have made it annoying in a playthrough because of its 80 speed. Plus, Erika's Victreebel and Tangela both have Wrap and Bind and whilst they aren't as fast fast, but they are also annoying if they also pull it off. So Venusaur should have learnt Wrap and it's not like it's the only broken move. Plus, wouldn't it also mean that the Charmander line shouldn't be able to learn Fire Spin in Gen 1 (even tho it does), which also works like Wrap in Gen 1?

It would be annoying to use because it's a low power move you have to spam to get anything done more than other moves. It would also be really annoying to deal with in your first encounters in the game, particularly the rival.
Erika bypasses this annoyance because she's a mid-game boss, & Charmander bypasses this by learning it late because the developers saw it as a late-game move that you might even get instead of the other late-game fire moves. I assume they felt the fire typing made it overall stronger where as Wrap is learned early on.