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Should Heavy-Duty Boots be allowed


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Starmie, Excadrill, Greninja, Floette-E, Chesnaught, Delphox, Skarmory

There’s plenty new megas that are viable. I’m not really understanding this at all.

Does anyone actually use mega excadrill? I don't think I've seen it once

I kinda get what he is saying. I don't agree that there's only 2-3 viable megas I think a lot are viable, but for some reason I only see 2-3 ever used. Sometimes I see people using no mega even.
 
Does anyone actually use mega excadrill? I don't think I've seen it once

I kinda get what he is saying. I don't agree that there's only 2-3 viable megas I think a lot are viable, but for some reason I only see 2-3 ever used. Sometimes I see people using no mega even.
tbf ppl jus spam the best shit to climb. gren mie phox floette are all way above the other megas but there are tons of viable megas that fit within different teams
 
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the way i see it mega excadrill is completely irrelevant and should almost never be used. It is still equally walled by skarm, but now it has no healing from lefties to let it spin multiple times and check floette. The benchmarks it hits from the stat buff are super fringe, speed tieing garchomp and flinching gourgeist or chesnaught is not a legitimate gameplan. the opportunity cost for the mega slot, and especially drill's item slot, is way too high when youre better suited to being a scarfer or a spdef fairy check.
 
I see MEel WAY more than Delphox. At least in my experience lately the most common sightings are like Floette, Starmie, Gren, Eel, Sableye for the weirdos trying to make stall work, and Skarm. All more than Delphox at least.
 
Do i jut have a skill issue or does Mega Delphox just feel so awkward to use?
Levitate is a much welcomed ability but still being weak to so many common moves/types means that you can really get much going without fearing a 1HKO or a roar/dragon tail. Greninja and Starmie being on almost every other team doesnt help either which makes it so awful to use most of the time
NP basically being a requirement also means you aren't able to use Delphoxs' surprisingly deep movepool to its fullest
 
Do i jut have a skill issue or does Mega Delphox just feel so awkward to use?
Levitate is a much welcomed ability but still being weak to so many common moves/types means that you can really get much going without fearing a 1HKO or a roar/dragon tail. Greninja and Starmie being on almost every other team doesnt help either which makes it so awful to use most of the time
NP basically being a requirement also means you aren't able to use Delphoxs' surprisingly deep movepool to its fullest
seems like a mon that could use a lot of experiementation, but i really doubt ZA is a hospitable metagame for it considering the amount of natural checks found on near every single team (scarf gren/krook, hoodra, tyranitar, pursuit existing). I wouldn't count it out considering just how absurd its statspread/movepool are overall. I feel like if it was dropped in gen 9 it would be tearing shit up
 
seems like a mon that could use a lot of experiementation, but i really doubt ZA is a hospitable metagame for it considering the amount of natural checks found on near every single team (scarf gren/krook, hoodra, tyranitar, pursuit existing). I wouldn't count it out considering just how absurd its statspread/movepool are overall. I feel like if it was dropped in gen 9 it would be tearing shit up
i agree 100% its got the stats its just completely destroyed easily (coming from experience w/ using regular delphox to my own detriment)
needing to hold the delphoxite also cripples it even more because not being able to use HDB means its already taken into unboosted kill range for a lot of pokemon + not being able to use NP to boost up and kill on the next turn with your speed advantage
it also suffers not being able to use choice scarf which means it can't even get chip damage against M-Greninjas without WS or do any shenanigans with trick

This team from the discord has given me the most success so far but it still doesn't have anything to hit water super effectively besides grass knot (you really shouldnt be in on a water type) https://pokepast.es/eec4d7bd48b8d101
 
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i agree 100% its got the stats its just completely destroyed easily (coming from experience w/ using regular delphox to my own detriment)
needing to hold the delphoxite also cripples it even more because not being able to use HDB means its already taken into unboosted kill range for a lot of pokemon + not being able to use NP to boost up and kill on the next turn with your speed advantage
it also suffers not being able to use choice scarf which means it can't even get chip damage against M-Greninjas without WS or do any shenanigans with trick

This team from the discord has given me the most success so far but it still doesn't have anything to hit water super effectively besides grass knot (you really shouldnt be in on a water type) https://pokepast.es/eec4d7bd48b8d101
Oh hey, that's my team. Yeah it kinda struggled into stuff like starmie, pretty hard.
https://pokepast.es/1cc5232a9db45af6
Someone used that team as a base to come up with this one and it performs a bit better in my testing, if you wanted to try it? It still doesn't hit waters SE but it's a much easier time actually coming in on offensive/defensive waters.
 
What are people's thoughts on Mega Froslass? Not having the lightclay with Veil seems a little bad although it has a solid stat range?
I tried using her, didn't work out well as most of the times it's either I wisp one of its checks before dying or I barely kill one mon at best before dying by it's checks. Hazards + priority isn't really helping it's situation all that much too. But it would be a really cool glass cannon if the competition for mega was a bit less.

It has a similar situation with :delphox: Mega Delephox, is an absolute nuke after nplot but struggles to sweep most of the time.
 
What are people's thoughts on Mega Froslass? Not having the lightclay with Veil seems a little bad although it has a solid stat range?
Gets checked hard by Ttar/Pursuit/Various Gren sets (emphasis on the Ttar) but it's comparatively fast to the majority of the tier and hits like an absolute truck. As a traditional screen setter, it's rather worthless, but you'd rather use your veil to facilitate your own set-up and subsequently help tank against revenge killers. Among Diancie/Delphox it's one of the best Mega-evolving, Special-attacking nukes available in the tier.
 
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