NOC Electoral Mafia - Game thread

jalmont said:
I'm just saying dude, I'm not the universal source for all things mafia but I've never encountered a scenario like this nor have I considered targeting someone who I thought was mafia with a role that would stop their vote and then be told by the host that I couldn't do that because I targeted them already.
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I didn't target them, I asked if I could
 
##unvote vote LIQUIDRELIEF

my guess is that we will find a way to not get plurality on someone. I personally think LR is just the clear scum here. there's really no reason to believe that as town they came in, didn't know who AP was but then was like yeah their mafia and then just dipped from there even though it takes like 2 seconds to say your role. if they are town then oh well guess we deserve to lose

if realiti is mafia then you know I'm okay with that too, I truly believe this is town realiti who has really tried to contribute to the game.
 
AirC said:
I don't get these calls? Why am I clearly maf?
Why me, as scum? Would target AP regardless of alignement? If AP is scum it just ends up getting me fucked over if AP slips, and if AP is town I don't get that much credit if he flips and still waste what would have been a kill as scum
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AirC said:
Town has 7 players,
Scum has 4 players

If Jalmont is town, it's 8 votes vs 4
If Jalmont is scum it's 7 votes vs 5

However, if Jalmont is town, and gets redirected, it ends up being 6v6, which basically mean mafia could force a tie. Either they're waiting to flashwagon, or they can't because Jalmont is scum
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Oh I see. Peum is claiming he has a secret doublevote (lol). So if hes town then its 7:6? But as Ive been saying there is probably no universe where we ever verify a secret double vote. Its a bit odd that he only just now got it on a day where maf is presumably playing for a win. Or is his vote made up?
 
Probably we shouldn't be discussing mod comms. I mean genie escaped the bottle already or whatever the case i guess. I think the more concrete thing here is again the fact that no other actions have suggested a bus driver. Unless realiti is going to insinuate that its me or something but Im not.
 
There's really no point in worry about if there's enough votes or who can actually be voted out. I'd rather we come to a consensus on someone and get all the votes on them first. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. But we need to pick someone to vote first before doing anything.

And I still don't really know what you two want to do or are thinking as far as who we are voting other than ridiculous suggestions like voting me out or "we've lost oh no!"
 
jalmont said:
There's really no point in worry about if there's enough votes or who can actually be voted out. I'd rather we come to a consensus on someone and get all the votes on them first. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. But we need to pick someone to vote first before doing anything.

And I still don't really know what you two want to do or are thinking as far as who we are voting other than ridiculous suggestions like voting me out or "we've lost oh no!"
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"There is no point to worry about if I'm scum or not"
 
AirC said:
"There is no point to worry about if I'm scum or not"
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I'll indulge you because I'm in a good mood and no one will be on to talk to me when I get home so let's think about it.

If I was mafia:

why would the mafia WASTE their persuade on me when they could....literally pick anyone else and then have a much easier time to achieve majority (because their 4 vote power goes to 5 with the mayor). In addition, that would mean the game was 10v5 from the start which is two misvotes with a normal night kill. An irregular kill like what we've witnessed would be 10v 5 -> 9v5 -> 8v5 -> 6v5 which is 3 misvotes.

Oh wait, the mafia has a persuader too. So actually that means the game is a 10v5 with two misvotes and that's assuming the mafia has 1 kill in 3 days.

So basically, you are right the game is over if I'm mafia because we would persuade a town and then just win off of that. I promise you I am competent enough to realize that and we wouldn't be having this conversation because me and my teammates would have won the game.

So let's move on from this line of thought. Thanks
 
AirC said:
"There is no point to worry about if I'm scum or not"
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Like if you are town, you should be very concerned about the fact that your role was presumably used to stop AP from being voted out. That's a net negative result for the town. Why would your role be used on AP? Even if it wasn't, why wasn't AP voted off? This is an extremely concerning event from a town perspective and it doesn't feel like you are adequately concerned about it as a town. You are more concerned about thinking that the persuaded double voter framed themself instead of trying to win the game outright with a persuaded town vote.
 
jalmont said:
I'll indulge you because I'm in a good mood and no one will be on to talk to me when I get home so let's think about it.

If I was mafia:

why would the mafia WASTE their persuade on me when they could....literally pick anyone else and then have a much easier time to achieve majority (because their 4 vote power goes to 5 with the mayor). In addition, that would mean the game was 10v5 from the start which is two misvotes with a normal night kill. An irregular kill like what we've witnessed would be 10v 5 -> 9v5 -> 8v5 -> 6v5 which is 3 misvotes.

Oh wait, the mafia has a persuader too. So actually that means the game is a 10v5 with two misvotes and that's assuming the mafia has 1 kill in 3 days.

So basically, you are right the game is over if I'm mafia because we would persuade a town and then just win off of that. I promise you I am competent enough to realize that and we wouldn't be having this conversation because me and my teammates would have won the game.

So let's move on from this line of thought. Thanks
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Grear point, but I don't get why doesn't mafia just tie on realiti then?
 
I have work today so it will be hard for me to switch my vote and I work at a school at higher elevation where smogon is banned on school wifi. the data is spotty sometimes but most of the time I can log on and can switch my vote :)
 
whoever thinks im scum and claims tracker with two redchecks in a uncoordinated gamestate + supposedly persuaded a town mayor on me and tells my potential scumbuddies to case & vote me...has an interesting view of the game
 
realiti said:
whoever thinks im scum and claims tracker with two redchecks in a uncoordinated gamestate + supposedly persuaded a town mayor on me and tells my potential scumbuddies to case & vote me...has an interesting view of the game
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Yes it just makes no sense it would have to be an absolute comedic turn of events for that to be the scum team.

I’m not interested in pursuing the you!mafia line of thought at all. We absolutely need to be consolidating on someone here. My (non existent) vote is for LR/larry
 
jalmont
i am the announcer. roughly equivalent to the fruit vendor in role value. however i also have a once a game ability to make a neighborhood (hence today's announcement). hence why i called dbd's claim that they were just a fruit vendor to be bullshit. bc it conflicts w/ how my role was worthless other than this cool one-time thing, and dbd going no i just have a worthless role
 
AngryPidgeon said:
Oh I see. Peum is claiming he has a secret doublevote (lol). So if hes town then its 7:6? But as Ive been saying there is probably no universe where we ever verify a secret double vote. Its a bit odd that he only just now got it on a day where maf is presumably playing for a win. Or is his vote made up?
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This is 100% scum reasoning I cant ever think that a town would post this
 
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