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Lee said:
Every post you make reinforces my belief that you should probably stick to breeding. Marowak is easily one of the most effective sweepers I've used.
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Do you use trick room or Ninjask/zapdos? I know it's kinda easy to switch it in to a TW and hit the switch-in, hard, but you're kinda harsh. I mean, forbidden was at least trying... xD
 
if you are slow and will probably get hit once or twice why would you want to lose half your hp while still killing things pretty much the same
 
NEW PORYGON-Z SET: sub + Nasty Plot!

Porygon-Z @ Salac / Petaya Berry
Modest
Adaptability
8 HP, 40 SpD, 252 Spe, 210 Satk


Substitute
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Dark Pulse/HP Fire


Here's what you do. First turn, Nasty Plot as usual. They'll switch in Blissey or Cress. Bliss WILL thunderwave, and you can sub, allowing you to attack it a couple times more. Cress will thunderwave or Ice Beam you. Ice Beam will not break the sub. I got up three Nasty Plots easily. Try it.
 
skiddle said:
NEW PORYGON-Z SET: sub + Nasty Plot!

Porygon-Z @ Salac / Petaya Berry
Modest
Adaptability
8 HP, 40 SpD, 252 Spe, 210 Satk


Substitute
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Dark Pulse/HP Fire


Here's what you do. First turn, Nasty Plot as usual. They'll switch in Blissey or Cress. Bliss WILL thunderwave, and you can sub, allowing you to attack it a couple times more. Cress will thunderwave or Ice Beam you. Ice Beam will not break the sub. I got up three Nasty Plots easily. Try it.
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looks pretty good actually..
 
CurZing (Curse Weezing)
Weezing@Leftovers/Black Sludge
Relaxed
252HP/252Def/4Atk
Curse
Substitute
Gyro Ball
Payback/Double Hit/Explosion/Fire Blast/Secret Power

In the analysis, it says Weezing would be a good Curser, if it had a good physical movepool, it doesn't, but Gyro Ball is the main move, and the filler depends on what you want, which can be quit useful for some things.
As for Sub, you can shift some HP EVs to make fours Subs, the subs have two main reasons: 1st avoid status, 2nd taking random Psychics (attacks) and OHKOIng the psychic type (assuming the psychic user is a psychic type, excluding Jirachi, Bronzong and Metagross).

~Payback: Hits Gengar, Starmie, Slowbro, Alakazam..you name it with a SE100base attack if they attack you behind your Sub.
~Double Hit: Not much for coverage, but it hits Water and Fire types neutral, but most importantly breaking Subs, and OHKOing (especially if they hold Focus Sash).
~Explosion: Used to kill Blissey, to end things..you name it.
~Fire Blast/Flamethrower: to hit Skarmory/Bronzong who think they can end your curse set up, only to be 2-3KOed.
~Secret Power: just like Double Hit is hits Fire and Water types, and unlike Return, Secret Power has a 30% PRZ chance in wifi (shoddy as well).
 
forbidden said:
Slow swords dancers never work though. Especially when Marowak's hp combined with sp.def is Fantastic! Besides anyone who runs a pure tank team which is the only thing slower enough to get swept by Marowak is..foolish.
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I just want to point out one thing, if a slow Swords Dance (in your opinion) never works, how would a slow Belly Drum work? You get +6 Attack, -50%, and will be OHKO by anything faster (Marowak can at least take a hit at 100%).

Now, I used Marowak on all my ADV teams and it works wonders, but Belly Drum is too risky and just overkill on the attack. If there is something he can't beat, pass Substitutes to assist.

Last thing. If you plan to use a Belly Drum on Marowak, waste your time with a Baton Pass team - At least then, you will get your +6, Speed, and a Substitute. @_@
 
nihilus said:
bliss uses seismic toss.
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Yeah, right.... because Blissey is gonna Siesmic Toss a Porygon-Z instead of trying to Thunderwave it... let me put it this way; if you play your cards right, you can plot TWICE and Tri Attack it TWICE, killing it.

NP first turn as it comes in

Sub on the Twave

Nasty Plot as they break your sub

Attack as the Seismic Toss again

Attack again for the KO, or sub again as they heal or Twave again
 
skiddle said:
Yeah, right.... because Blissey is gonna Siesmic Toss a Porygon-Z instead of trying to Thunderwave it... let me put it this way; if you play your cards right, you can plot TWICE and Tri Attack it TWICE, killing it.

NP first turn as it comes in

Sub on the Twave

Nasty Plot as they break your sub

Attack as the Seismic Toss again

Attack again for the KO, or sub again as they heal or Twave again
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yeah, because blissey always carrys t-wave right?
 
How's this:

Name: Weavile
move 1: Ice Beam/Blizzard
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Focus Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Pressure
nature(s): Hasty/Naive
evs: 252 Sp.att, 152 Speed, 104 Att

A Mixedvile, i thought this speed EVs should outrun 112 base speed.
 
The Shadow Trainer said:
How's this:

Name: Weavile
move 1: Ice Beam/Blizzard
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Focus Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Pressure
nature(s): Hasty/Naive
evs: 252 Sp.att, 152 Speed, 104 Att

A Mixedvile, i thought this speed EVs should outrun 112 base speed.
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Unless you want to OH-2KO common Phy.Walls switching in, Weavile has no business in special attacking, if so I'd run some Sp.Atk EVs to ensure OH-2KO Phy.Walls, as for the rest goes to Atk/Sp.Atk..something similar to MixApe, only weaker in Sp.Atk..a lot weaker.
 
just got swept by this (last poke obviously)

Clefable
evs/nature unknown but probably defensive
@toxic orb
cosmic power
softboiled
belly drum
facade

x_x
 
NP first turn as it comes in

Sub on the Twave

Nasty Plot as they break your sub

Attack as the Seismic Toss again-why would bliss attack when it would die next turn? Any good player would Softboil and stall you out or switch to a faster Ghost or a Steel.

Attack again for the KO, or sub again as they heal or Twave again
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Lol yeah, I've seen that Clefable before. Although I prefer:

-Cosmic Power
-Belly Drum
-Drain Punch
-Meteor Mash

If you get set up it's pretty much game over.
 
In a trade I got a Calm XD Lapras with Heal Bell. IVs: 29/x/29/23/23/22. I wanted to make a support set to be used in UU only. I EV-trained it as 20 HP/224 Def/44 SpA/220 SpD. With its given IVs, this gives it 404 HP, just in case I want Substitute; it also gives Lapras 250 Def and 300 Sp.Def (nice round numbers). The rest of the EVs were dumped into special attack to make Ice Beam and/or Surf hurt a bit more.

Summary:
Lapras @ Lefties
Calm | Shell Armor
IVs: 29/x/29/23/23/22
EVs: 20 HP/224 Def/44 SpA/220 SpD
~ Ice Beam
~ Heal Bell
~ Toxic
~ Surf/Protect

Surf for another attacking move, or protect for toxic stalling and leftovers recovery.

What do you all think?
 
skiddle said:
NEW PORYGON-Z SET: sub + Nasty Plot!

Porygon-Z @ Salac / Petaya Berry
Modest
Adaptability
8 HP, 40 SpD, 252 Spe, 210 Satk


Substitute
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Dark Pulse/HP Fire


Here's what you do. First turn, Nasty Plot as usual. They'll switch in Blissey or Cress. Bliss WILL thunderwave, and you can sub, allowing you to attack it a couple times more. Cress will thunderwave or Ice Beam you. Ice Beam will not break the sub. I got up three Nasty Plots easily. Try it.
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Used the exact set (different EV's) at the beginning of shoddy and it worked great.
 
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