CAP 3 CAP 3 - Part 1 (Main type)

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Urza said:
a flaming prarie dog perhaps? with leaves for fur in the front of its body, trailing off to flames (or perhaps dried leaves) as it extends down the body?
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This is what I always wanted. The fur would glisten with embers.


And now that fire's gotten so many votes, I'm wondering if a spillover thread is even going to be necessary...
 
Dane said:
And now that fire's gotten so many votes, I'm wondering if a spillover thread is even going to be necessary...
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Number of Bolded Votes: 90
Fire count: 43 of those 90 votes
Fire Percent: 47.7%


Electric count: 22 of those 90 votes (second highest)
Electric Percent: 24.4%

judging by those numbers I said that Fire truly won this poll.
 
You needed to count? =p

Really, i see nothing coming outta a new fire type. Now i'm biased against it, but even if this is a Fire/grass Subseeder what role will it fulfill in balancing the metagame?
 
Fire/Grass just based on potential movepool is much more then some crappy sub seeder.

There is possibility for really good support(WOW,Sleep powder,Synthesis,Leech Seed,Stun Spore)

Choice Specs(Fire Blast,Flamethrower,Energy Ball,Leaf Storm,Hidden Power,Grass Knot)

Physical(Flare Blitz,Seed Bomb,Fire Punch,Power Whip)

Weather Abuser(Sunny Day,Synthesis,Solar Power,Chlorophyll,Flamethrower,Fire Blast)

I know it won't end up getting all these but there is still alot more potential for fire/grass then just a slightly better sub-seeder
 
I would definitely vote Grass/Fire, there's a lot you can do with that. And Aki, you seem to be implying Fire is a type that stifles creativity...why? There is a lot you can do to interpret a Fire type. Merely going "I can't see anything coming out of it" is only going to decrease morale.
 
crap, i missed it. oh well. for the secondary type i'd love to see electric, because stab on flamethrower and tbolt would be sick.
 
If the poll was intended to be open for 2 days, it should be open for 2 days. I know it's clear that Fire won, but we should abide to the rules proposed. Next time, if we realize two days aren't necessary for this poll, we should just shorten it to 1 day. But meanwhile, I think the 2 day voting period should be respected.

BTW, I will support Fire/Grass in the next poll, that's for sure. As latinoheat mentioned, there are endless possibilities to explore with this typing.
 
Time Mage said:
If the poll was intended to be open for 2 days, it should be open for 2 days. I know it's clear that Fire won, but we should abide to the rules proposed. Next time, if we realize two days aren't necessary for this poll, we should just shorten it to 1 day. But meanwhile, I think the 2 day voting period should be respected.
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Agreed. Not really a reason to keep it going, in a sense, but it should be respected since some people may be holding their vote until tonight. If nothing else, it gives Gothic_Kiss time to get a secondary poll thread together and ready to launch tonight.

BTW, I will support Fire/Grass in the next poll, that's for sure. As latinoheat mentioned, there are endless possibilities to explore with this typing.
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Agreed again.

*edit* Just realized this started yesterday morning, and not Sunday night. Maybe if there aren't a decent amount of new votes by tonight, start the secondary type poll?
 
Fire looks like it won, so I'm going to start off saying this -

Please, please, do not give it Sacred Fire. Please do not even bring it up for future discussions.
 
Since we are trying a new process, we don't need to be too rigid about the voting periods. I tend to agree that we should allow votes to play out. But, I don't think we should keep a poll open if votes are not being frequently cast and/or the discussion is drying up. We need to keep the momentum going. But, we don't have to rush it either.

Since this is the first poll, and we have a news item on the Smogon front page -- I wouldn't mind if this first poll were left open for another day. It would give newcomers more of a chance to "get in on the ground floor" of this project.
 
Fire may have won, but it does not have majority. Not yet anyway. I don't doubt that Fire will win in the end (unless my awesome Grass/Electric WIP changes some minds), but tradition states that we must have a vote between the top two/three. So just keep your pants on everyone.

As for Fire stifling creativity, there is absolutely no support for that argument. The only possible reason I could think of for such a position is that since GF doesn't make many Fire pokemon, you'd think it's because they've run out of ideas. That is a lie. Though, this whole prairie dog thing sounds a lot like Quilava....
 
Grass.

There are only 3 grass type OU's out there, and one has more weaknesses than any other OU poke, while another is only OU because of its ability.
 
I dunno, I'd rather see a Lion Pokemon (with obligatory badass fire mane) than a prairie dog. Both Entei and Arcanine are dogs, not cats! Actually, another possibility in that general vein would be a Fire/Electric Manectric evo with Volt Tackle/Flare Blitz.
 
I think it is best that we don't call this one right now. Fire has less than half the vote (44% at my last count) and less than twice the votes of electric (25% at my last count). We could probably exclude poison from the next poll (only 13%).

I like the lion idea. The sprites would certainly have to be different between males and females. There could even be a dex entry to the effect of only the females hunt because the males' great flaming manes give them away when hiding.
 
Since it seems like Fire is winning out, I'll go ahead and assume that is the primary type, and start thinking about the next step, that is, the secondary typing. I'm pretty much going to assume that we are going to have a secondary type because the game has 8 fully evolved mono Fire types anyway, and I believe originality and creativity should be emphasized. Also, I recognize that is just the primary poll and it hasn't even been decided yet, but since discussion seems to be wavering slightly and it is never a bad idea to think ahead, I figured I might as well do so lol.

I think Mekkah posted that emphasizing creativity would mean that Flying, Fighting, Ground, Rock, Steel, Ghost, Bug, Dark, Dragon and Ice are out of the picture since we have Fire types with those types or we have already used four of those types in this project (or in the case of Fire / Dragon, is too fan boyish).

This leaves Grass, Water, Poison, Normal, Psychic, Electric as possible secondary types...all of which look potentially cool (besides Electric lol).

I dunno, I'm not really a fan of Fire / Electric; Electric only covers Fire's Water weakness, and Fire doesn't help Electric too much besides adding even more of a weakness to Ground.

Fire / Grass on the other hand seems really cool. Grass covers Fire's weaknesses perfectly in the offensively and only Rock is not made neutral defensively. Fire also helps Grass out offensively and defensively.

However, what "real-life representation" could a potential Grass / Fire have? I don't know of many Flaming Bushes.

Fire / Poison is done easily with some sort of Volcanic creature implementation, like an evolution for Torkoal or something to that extent.

Fire / Electric I guess is already done for us since Manectric could use an evolution, is an Electric and already learns Fire-type moves.

Fire / Normal could be that lion or Prairie dog that people are referring to, since a lot of animals in GF's game seem to be normal (Zangoose / Dodrio / Tauros / Miltank)

Fire / Psychic I'm not sure of either, but it definitely seems to have "cool" potential.

Fire / Water is another weird one like Fire / Grass, but I really have no idea here.

For the next poll, I would definitely support Grass, Normal, Water, Psychic, in that order, for the secondary typing. If I had to only choose two, it would be Grass then Normal.
 
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