My 2nd Team: Hope it Turns Out Good

Kaixer

Hey guys, this is my 2nd team, Hope you guys like it. Still think I need help.
Spr_4d_260.png


Gengar @ Focus Sash
4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Hasty

Counter
Hyonosis
Destiny Bond
Shadow Ball



This is my starter. It is nice to have a ghost in a team with hypnosis. I like the destiny bond because it basicly kill every thing (Except normal pokemon). But yeah, I like the destiny bond because just incase if a pokemon wakes up, I have something to kill it.

Magmortar @ Choice Scarf
84 Atk / 252 SpA / 172 Spe
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Mild

Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Ice
Cross Chop

I only have this because some of my pokemon are weak to ice, grass, and bug. And it is a good Special Attacker.


Swampert @ Leftovers
240 HP / 216 Def / 68 SpA
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Relaxed

Surf
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Roar

I like Swamper because I wanted another attacker in my team that is kinda also is a defender. And it can also get rid of pokemon which is nice.


Weavile @ Expert Belt
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 HP
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Adamant

Pursuit
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Night Slash

I like Weavile a lot. It can kill a lot of stuff. Mainly Ghosts and Dragons. And I like the Pursuit because the Priority. The only reason I have Focus Sash is because it can get killed by stuff that people usually put in their teams


Lucario @ Life Orb
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant

Swords Dance
Extreme Speed
Close Combat
Crunch

I like Lucario. He is a good fighting pokemon. I especially like it because it is faster than my Breloom. And this thing could get alot stronger with Swords Dance. Also, thinking about giving it focus sash. I need some opinions.

Spr_b_g4_472.png

Gliscor @ Leftovers
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Impish

Earthquake
Roost
Aerial Ace
Stealth

I wanted something that could set a stealth rock and I needed a good defender. Anyways, I chose aerial ace of ice fang is so I have something that could kill fighting types.

Anyways, that is my team. I will consider all suggestions.

P.S. - Please read the other posts before you post here. Also, I do not play on shoddy.
 
I don't see why you have Breloom on this team and even more as a lead. If I were you I would swap it with a SD Lucario, but if you want Breloom leading put Protect over Substitute. Faster sleep inducers and the ever popular Lumzong will screw you offer.

Get rid of Focus Sash on Weavile and give it a Choice Band. With all the fast SR's everywhere, you'll be wasting an item slot and Sashvile isnt good without Sword Dance. Also I strongly suggest you give Chomp a Yache Berry and switch Fire Blast for Fire Fang since its the fastest thing in your team right now, and you dont want it stuck on 1 move. Sure you'll loose raw power but you'll gain versatility.

Magmortar seems like a dead weight on this team. Switch it for Scarftran you said you only added Magmortar for the Ice, Bug and Grass resist, well Heatran gains 4x resistance and it will add speed to your team if you choose to add Heatran you can leave choice Band on Chomp but replace Fire Blast for Stone Edge so you can OHKO Zapdos which walls your entire team.

If your planning on using Heatran use the standard set.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Modest/Mild
20 Hp/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 236 Spe
-Explosion
-Hidden Power Ice
-Earth Power
-Fire Blast
It adds all the resistances you wanted plus a dragon one as well. EVs are self explanatory 236 will let out speed jolly Dugtrio and OHKO with Fire Blast and Hidden Power Ice. Max special attack and the rest in Hp.

Lastly take out Aerial Ace on Gliscor, trust me Heracross isnt going to be staying in and it only does a meager 25% damadge to Celebi who can OHKO you back with Hidden Power Ice. Replace it with Knock Off, its going to screw allot of things over whether your knocking out Leftovers or Choice Specs.
 
Eersnot said:
I don't see why you have Breloom on this team and even more as a lead. If I were you I would swap it with a SD Lucario, but if you want Breloom leading put Protect over Substitute. Faster sleep inducers and the ever popular Lumzong will screw you offer.

Get rid of Focus Sash on Weavile and give it a Choice Band. With all the fast SR's everywhere, you'll be wasting an item slot and Sashvile isnt good without Sword Dance. Also I strongly suggest you give Chomp a Yache Berry and switch Fire Blast for Fire Fang since its the fastest thing in your team right now, and you dont want it stuck on 1 move. Sure you'll loose raw power but you'll gain versatility.

Magmortar seems like a dead weight on this team. Switch it for Scarftran you said you only added Magmortar for the Ice, Bug and Grass resist, well Heatran gains 4x resistance and it will add speed to your team if you choose to add Heatran you can leave choice Band on Chomp but replace Fire Blast for Stone Edge so you can OHKO Zapdos which walls your entire team.

If your planning on using Heatran use the standard set.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Modest/Mild
20 Hp/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 236 Spe
-Explosion
-Hidden Power Ice
-Earth Power
-Fire Blast
It adds all the resistances you wanted plus a dragon one as well. EVs are self explanatory 236 will let out speed jolly Dugtrio and OHKO with Fire Blast and Hidden Power Ice. Max special attack and the rest in Hp.

Lastly take out Aerial Ace on Gliscor, trust me Heracross isnt going to be staying in and it only does a meager 25% damadge to Celebi who can OHKO you back with Hidden Power Ice. Replace it with Knock Off, its going to screw allot of things over whether your knocking out Leftovers or Choice Specs.
Click to expand...
I have been thinking about using a SD Lucario also, and I am in the middle of trying to breed a Adamant Lucario also. I still kinda like the focus sash on Weavile. Never know when it is gonna come in handy. I will fix the Garchomp. I don't really have a Modest or Mild Heatran. But if I ever get one I will switch it out with magmortar. Thanks :D
 
1) He doesn't need Protect on Breloom specifically for LumZong, but yes, he does need it if he wants to beat Scarf Gengar. Technically he could just Substitute as Bronzong uses Hypnosis, then you Spore. Then you Spore again, no problem.

2) SD Lucario and Breloom are completely different pokemon. Breloom can take down its counters much more easily with just its standard set, meanwhile Lucario must rely on things like HP Ice / Stone Edge / Crunch in the last slot to hit what it wants for SE. Just about the safest switchin for Breloom is Resttalk Cresselia, Celebi, Resttalk Weezing, and that is it really. Even Gliscor is worn down too easily by Leech Seed.

3) Heatran>Magmortar purely for sake of resistances, tho if you don't mind the 25% from Stealth Rock as you switch in, or the lack of Toxic/Sandstream immunity, then keep Magmortar. It looks much cooler and people don't give it credit for beating up Gyarados, Tyranitar and Blissey more easily. More importantly, it destroys Suicune, Vaporeon, Starmie, and Snorlax if they switch into the wrong move, as he has Thunderbolt, thus allowing him coverage on practically everything. I suggest using a Rapid Spinner in combination with Magmortar.
 
Just a couple nit-picks.

Weavile really does need Choice Band. You'll enjoy the extra power and Focus Sashes are somewhat dead with Stealth Rocks everywhere, as mentioned. Second, if you want Weavile revenging Dragons, he needs Ice Shard, otherwise DD Mence/Nites and ScarfChomps will just blow right through him. Replace it for either Night Slash if you fear Gengar, or Pursuit if you fear Cresselia. In doing this, you're free to swap Vaporeon's Ice Beam for Hidden Power [Electric]. Vaporeon is a fantastic Gyarados counter, but really can't stop one unless it's carrying HP, thus allowing Gyarados to run through the remainder of your team.

If you have Yache Berry on Garchomp you need Swords Dance, otherwise you're just losing so much potential power. Replace Fire Fang for it, maybe, because Zapdos will give you more problems overall then Bronzong or Skarmory.

One last thing is Magmortar needs to be able to out-speed the Standard Dragons to make Hidden Power [Ice] effective coverage-wise. Choice Scarf allows you to hit Yache Chomp, Banded Dragons, or anything that hasn't Dragon Danced. However, I'd be hesitant to give up Expert Belts versatility so it's just something to consider. If you can't out-speed Dragon types, then Hidden Power [Ice] could be replaced by maybe Hidden Power [Grass], which hits the occasional Swampert that may switch into you.
 
blasphemy1:
1) Okay so no protect for my Breloom

2) KK, cool. So, I guess I am gonna keep my Breloom

3) That is the reason I chose Magmortar. Guess I just forgot. Anyways, So I need a Rapid spinner. I'll try to get one. Thanks :D

Backflip:
Okay, I should put choice band on my Weavile. Dude, I am not going to breed to get another move then EV train it again. My EV's are not right to have hidden power electric XD.

So no fire fang and add swords dance. kk.

KK, I sse what you are saying about the Magmortar. I will try it out, Thanks :D

Thanks Guys =D
 
Breloom looks good but leech seed and stone egde are good options over seed bomb. Putting hp electric on vapeoreon would definitely help against your gyarados weakness. I would put it over ice beam or protect. Focus sash will be easily ruined by the very popular stealth rock so I would change weavile's item to a choice band so pursuit can ohko gengar/azelf/alakazam even if they don't switch out most of the time.You can also use life orb + swords dance
for late game sweeping with

weavile@life orb jolly 4hp/252spe/252atk
ice shard
night slash
brick break
swords dance

I dont think your garchomp will do much damage without swords dance or a choice band. For swords dance drop stone edge as dragon,ground,fire has perfect coverage already and stealth rock will wear down rock weak flyers anyway. this makes the set

garchomp@yache berry jolly 4 hp/252spe/252atk
earthquake
outrage/dragon claw
swords dance
fire fang

and if you change to choice band make sure you change fire fang to fire blast or else it is very hard to damage skarmory. Magmortar just looks like a weaker Infernape to me. just run the standard

mixape@life orb
naive
24atk/252spe/232sp
close combat
flamethrower
grass knot
hp ice

you could even throw hp electric on over hp ice if you wanted too.
aerial ace on gliscor is really not too helpful against fighting types its only good against ice punch machamp and breloom imo. infernape and lucario will be hit by earthquake harder and heracross with be walled all day anyway. so stick with ice fang for all those dragons.
 
stormtrooper said:
Breloom looks good but leech seed and stone egde are good options over seed bomb. Putting hp electric on vapeoreon would definitely help against your gyarados weakness. I would put it over ice beam or protect. Focus sash will be easily ruined by the very popular stealth rock so I would change weavile's item to a choice band so pursuit can ohko gengar/azelf/alakazam even if they don't switch out most of the time.You can also use life orb + swords dance
for late game sweeping with

weavile@life orb jolly 4hp/252spe/252atk
ice shard
night slash
brick break
swords dance

I dont think your garchomp will do much damage without swords dance or a choice band. For swords dance drop stone edge as dragon,ground,fire has perfect coverage already and stealth rock will wear down rock weak flyers anyway. this makes the set

garchomp@yache berry jolly 4 hp/252spe/252atk
earthquake
outrage/dragon claw
swords dance
fire fang

and if you change to choice band make sure you change fire fang to fire blast or else it is very hard to damage skarmory. Magmortar just looks like a weaker Infernape to me. just run the standard

mixape@life orb
naive
24atk/252spe/232sp
close combat
flamethrower
grass knot
hp ice

you could even throw hp electric on over hp ice if you wanted too.
aerial ace on gliscor is really not too helpful against fighting types its only good against ice punch machamp and breloom imo. infernape and lucario will be hit by earthquake harder and heracross with be walled all day anyway. so stick with ice fang for all those dragons.
Click to expand...
For all people who read this, I cannot put HP Electric on my Vaporeon because it doesn't have the correct IV's. And last for Ice Shard. I don't feel like breeding a tone to get ice shard and then Ev training it again.
Okay, Garchomp, That is the one I am going to use. And well, Infernape. I am going to use magmortar with choice sacrf. Magmortar with choice scarf is better because it has higher special attack.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top