Luck is the only weakness.

Zephiel

THIS TEAM IS FOR THE SUSPECT LADDER! The title is exaggerated, by the way.

Overview:

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Introduction:

This extremely offensive team is a huge, huge change for me. Because I am usually a very defensive player who relies on stall teams and often ignores offensive and balanced teams, but this time by some miracle I decided to try out an offensive team. Although I am in the Suspect ladder and lack Garchomp and Deoxys-S, I actually think this is a great thing, since I don't have to counter them. And personally, I had much more fun in the Suspect ladder. Anyway, I decided to start playing and immediately started the ladder - and to my surprise, after 20-30 battles, I only had 3-4 losses and all of them were because of very bad luck. I love this team and even in such a short time it became my favorite and main team. I am only playing offense from now on. My ladder points increased immensely in such a short about of time. As IPL said, battles take 20 or less turns and I only switch once or twice. If not, something is seriously going wrong.

The Team:

The team plan is to start off with Azelf and Stealth Rock. Then, I'll Explode. With 3 Explosions (Azelf, Heatran and Metagross) my opponent will be highly damaged. You may think this is a bad thing, but this is one reason why I am winning so many battles, because it opens up space for my sweepers Suicune and Lucario to sweep the opponent to death. Meanwhile, Gengar also comes in and delivers Hypnosis and damages the opponent with his high attack and speed. Metagross has the job of countering Gengar and Exploding, while Heatran is my revenge killer (he doesn't Explode much of the time).

An interesting fact to note that is Suicune is the only pokemon hit by Toxic Spikes, and Metagross, Heatran and Lucario resist Stealth Rock.

Another thing to note is that I try not to use Explosion unless it is needed, so I don't depend on it too much.



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Azelf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Naive (+Spe, -SpD)
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Psychic
- Fire Blast

Azelf is a wonderful starter.. best starter in OU play in my opinion. It has never ever failed me yet, and it won me many games. It's job is to set up Stealth Rock so many people predict that I would use it, and deal damage to Metagross, Bronzong, Roserade and Infernape starters. Once his job is done, he explodes. He also killed many Gyarados for me, even though I lack Thunderbolt. I find it useless really, Fire Blast has slayed many Metagross and Bronzong and Taunt just fails. Explosion kills Gyarados anyway. He has 28 SpD IVs of course.


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Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Hasty (+Spe, -Def)
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Explosion
- Fire Blast

Heatran is my revenge killer and kills anything that threatens my Suicune and Lucario sweep: he does a heck of a good job at it. There really isn't much to say here, Fire Blast does major damage all around. Also, the fact that he has one of the fastest Explosions ever is a huge plus. Another amazing, amazing pokemon, but then again, every pokemon in my team is amazing.


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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Substitute

I want to thank whoever invented this set! It has been EXTREMELY useful! It is very easy to switch in, and it starts by setting a Sub. Then I sleep the opponent's pokemon and do major damage to anything that switches in. Focus Blast misses 70% of the time for me but at least it's been much more useful than Focus Punch. Sure, Blissey and Snorlax can stop it, but they just can't do much to this team anyway. Usually this guy is defeated by using moves like Bullet Punch or gay switch abusing with Sandstream, and even then he does so much damage that it's amazing.


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Metagross @ Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 184 Atk / 184 Spe
Nature: Jolly (+Spe, -SpA)
- Pursuit
- Explosion
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake

Another amazing pokemon, it counters my own Gengar, and that's the reason why it's here. Lum Berry is for taking Hypnosis and other status which helps immensely, Pursuit is for getting switching Gengar, Celebi and other pokemon, meanwhile Bullet Punch can help a lot too by hurting Gengar a lot and revenge killing pokemon. Explosion is great too, I can get rid of anything that threatens me. Also, Earthquake is just.. there. For Jirachi I guess. Anyway, this really is a great pokemon, and my only wall-like pokemon but even then he does huge damage!


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Suicune @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 24 HP / 232 Spd / 252 SpA
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Electric]

!!! What an excellent pokemon. It shocks many opponents.. it wrecks havoc, it causes so much damage it's amazing. I can't believe I had LO Gyarados over this but turns out this is much better. Thanks Irak for posting Team Grizzly Bear (this is how I got it). Anyway, many people overconfidently switch in expecting Suicune's low speed, but bam! Suicune kills off the opponent's pokemon. He usually uses Calm Mind first, and will murder Zapdos, Celebi and Lucario's other counters. Suicune and Lucario make an excellent team. Also my bulky water counter, and takes out the dragons. Maybe I rely on him too much. Also takes care off Lucario and Heracross since he is usually faster than them.


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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch

What my team is based on.. perhaps the new Garchomp. The lategame sweeper. He comes in last, after my team has turned the opponent into a trash can. I rarely rely on this guy though, in most of my battles Lucario doesn't even switch in since the opponent is murdered by the other pokemon. I found Stone Edge and Crunch useless, and Bullet Punch has saved my ass against Gengar, so I am not changing it at all, it's become a necessity. Too destructive for his own good.

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Had fun? Now I will hopefully prove that I can take every serious threat to some extent:

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Threat List:
  • Tyranitar: Lucario, Gengar, Metagross, Azelf usually Explodes on it, Heatran Earth Power, Suicune will murder it. No problem at all.
  • Gyarados: Nearly a nonissue since Azelf usually Explodes on it, I sometimes have Gengar sleep it, sometimes Heatran Explodes on it, Suicune usually kills it with HP Electric in one hit though. Again, never gave me any troubles of any sort.
  • Azelf: Since it is usually a lead, it's not a huge problem. Metagross for ones without Fire Blast, but Suicune can take it, Heatran can finish it or Explode on it, do some stuff. Lucario can finish it off.
  • Rhyperior: Suicune.
  • Electivire: Didn't even battle one.. I suppose Metagross though. Not sure about this since I didn't battle one, but I am sure I can revenge kill it with Gengar and Heatran.
  • Heracross: Heatran revenge kill, Gengar sleeps it, not a problem. Suicune kills it the most though.
  • Salamence: Suicune never failed me yet, Heatran kills it, Azelf can Explode on it, Gengar can sleep it, not a problem.
  • Togekiss: Heatran revenge kill, Azelf Explosion, Suicune, so many things.
  • Gengar: What Metagross is here for!
  • Raikou: Metagross, Heatran revenge explode etc. A bigger problem than the others actually. It can't switch on anything though.
  • Starmie: Another bigger problem, Metagross takes this though. Heatran helps, Gengar kills the defensive versions. Suicune helps immensely.
  • Weavile: Metagross.
  • Porygon-Z: Can't do anything to this team, everything hurts it a lot.
  • Machamp: Gengar helps I guess.. I can take this out with Heatran, Metagross Explosion, Suicune is a pain to him.
  • Jolteon: A bigger problem! Heatran takes this though. Lucario revenge kills.
  • Snorlax: Lucario, Metagross Explosion, Azelf Explosion, Heatran Explosion, Gengar, Suicune hurts it a lot.
  • Zapdos: Suicune makes it shit itself once I use Ice Beam and it dies. Heatran helps. A bigger problem I guess but I never lost to it yet.
  • Blissey: Same as Snorlax.
  • Suicune: My own Suicune since my Suicune is pretty rare. But anyway, I can Explode on it. Lucario hurts it a lot after a sacrifice.
  • Breloom: Azelf, Heatran, Gengar, Metagross, Suicune, Lucario, all 6.
  • Ninjask: SR, then use Psychic and Explode on whatever comes in.
  • Metagross: My own Metagross, Azelf killed it many times for me, Heatran revenge kill.
  • Heatran: More annoying.. although my own Heatran can take it with prediction, and Suicune can take it if it doesn't boom.
  • Celebi: Suicune, Metagross boom, Heatran.
  • Jirachi: Metagross, Heatran.
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That's it! I hope you liked my team as much as I did.
 
This is kind of odd, but a Pinsir/Rampardos runs this team into a hole if they set up. With 4 EQ weaks and Mold Breaker, they'll be doing a ton of damage, especially the rock polish variant of Rampardos. Luckily, neither is very common.

I'd put leftovers > Life orb on Suicune. Helps in sandstorm, and it'll make you live longer if you're so reliant on it.

Other than that, your team is fairly dark weak. 2 resists is good though.
 
MetaNite said:
This is kind of odd, but a Pinsir/Rampardos runs this team into a hole if they set up. With 4 EQ weaks and Mold Breaker, they'll be doing a ton of damage, especially the rock polish variant of Rampardos. Luckily, neither is very common.

I'd put leftovers > Life orb on Suicune. Helps in sandstorm, and it'll make you live longer if you're so reliant on it.

Other than that, your team is fairly dark weak. 2 resists is good though.
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Pinsir is revenge killed by Heatran.

Rampardos is beaten by Suicune or Exploded on.

Not 4 EQ weaks. Azelf and Gengar are uneffected, and Suicune is neutral. EQ never bothered me actually.

Without Life Orb there is no point on using this Suicune, it simply does not do enough damage.

Dark weak? Azelf's job is done very fast so he might not even take a hit (and he has Focus Sash), Heatran and Lucario resist it, Suicune and Metagross are neutral and Gengar is weak to it. How is my team dark weak?
 
This team is very well made, I have to praise you on that but as the above poster said, Pinsir will give your team a very hard time. Luckily it isn't very common so it won't be a problem, but if it someone uses it against you, it's game over, although you can revenge kill it with Heatran. Your Suicune set needs to be fixed a little. Use this spread as it covers everything you want to cover, and it adds a lot of more bulk which will help you in the long run. Use this EV spread over the current one, 172 HP / 120 SpA / 216 Spe. Also keep Life Orb on Suicune, without it he is dead weight as he can't even OHKO a Lucario, which my spread does do with Life Orb. It will still outrun Lucario and Heracross and the like, but you can survive a hit too. Also on Gengar, change the nature to Timid, since you aren't even using Focus Punch anymore.
 
Sikh Assassin said:
This team is very well made, I have to praise you on that but as the above poster said, Pinsir will give your team a very hard time. Luckily it isn't very common so it won't be a problem, but if it someone uses it against you, it's game over, although you can revenge kill it with Heatran. Your Suicune set needs to be fixed a little. Use this spread as it covers everything you want to cover, and it adds a lot of more bulk which will help you in the long run. Use this EV spread over the current one, 172 HP / 120 SpA / 216 Spe. Also keep Life Orb on Suicune, without it he is dead weight as he can't even OHKO a Lucario, which my spread does do with Life Orb. It will still outrun Lucario and Heracross and the like, but you can survive a hit too. Also on Gengar, change the nature to Timid, since you aren't even using Focus Punch anymore.
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I don't see how Pinsir will give me trouble though.. Azelf can Fire Blast or Explode on it since it is faster and has Focus Sash, Heatran will revenge kill it, Gengar is faster so it can sleep it and Shadow Ball hurts a lot, Metagross probably won't die but I can't be sure, I can use Bullet Punch if it is close to dying or Explode on it. Suicune can take a hit and kill it with Surf, and Lucario has ExtremeSpeed. I don't see how it will give me any trouble, but eh. It's not common anyways.

Your EV spread for Suicune is very nice and I will test it before adding it.

Thanks for that, I originally had Focus Punch so I forgot.

Thanks to everyone who posted.
 
He's saying Mold Breaker Earthquakes give you problems because only Suicune and Azelf can switch in without being OHKOed.

A choice banded Earthquake from Pinsir will OHKO Lucario, Metagross, Heatran, and Gengar easily.

Azelf and Suicune won't be killed off instantly, but with no way of recovering, it'd be impossible to beat.

Anyways, it's so rare that it's not even an issue.
 
skiddle said:
He's saying Mold Breaker Earthquakes give you problems because only Suicune and Azelf can switch in without being OHKOed.

A choice banded Earthquake from Pinsir will OHKO Lucario, Metagross, Heatran, and Gengar easily.

Azelf and Suicune won't be killed off instantly, but with no way of recovering, it'd be impossible to beat.

Anyways, it's so rare that it's not even an issue.
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Depends on the Rampardos. If it's CB, I need to predict, which is the way to beat most CBers anyway. If it uses Life Orb I could play around it.

Gengar has Levitate, so it can avoid Earthquake, don't forget.

Heatran is faster and will never switch in on Pinsir. Heatran will instead Revenge kill or come in on X-Scissor.

Lucario has Bullet Punch to finish it off.

Not sure if Metagross will die but it is possible.

As you said, it will have CB. So it's stuck to one move.. and I need prediction.

I have no idea why you guys are making such a big deal of Rampardos and Pinsir. They are nearly never used and much better rates could have been made.

Thanks anyway I guess.
 
Zephiel said:
Depends on the Rampardos. If it's CB, I need to predict, which is the way to beat most CBers anyway. If it uses Life Orb I could play around it.

Gengar has Levitate, so it can avoid Earthquake, don't forget.

Heatran is faster and will never switch in on Pinsir. Heatran will instead Revenge kill or come in on X-Scissor.

Lucario has Bullet Punch to finish it off.

Not sure if Metagross will die but it is possible.

As you said, it will have CB. So it's stuck to one move.. and I need prediction.

I have no idea why you guys are making such a big deal of Rampardos and Pinsir. They are nearly never used and much better rates could have been made.

Thanks anyway I guess.
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Mold Breaker makes groundmoves hit levitating pokémon.
 
Yeah, I forgot that. Anyway, can you please actually be helpful and stop talking about some pokemon that isn't even on the ladder?

Earthquake may look like it hurts this team, but Azelf and Gengar have Levitate, and Suicune is neutral. Okay, Lucario, Metagross and Heatran are weak to it.

Heatran is a revenge killer - he switches out immediately after he does his job, and I'm not stupid enough for him to get hit by Earthquake.

Lucario will come in lategame after the opponent has been hurt a lot, that means the opponent will likely not have an Earthquake user and if it does I will try my best to get rid of it. And even then Lucario will come in on a non-Earthquake user and set up, and kill the opponent's pokemon. I also stated that Lucario rarely even gets play during a game.

Metagross is the only one really expecting an Earthquake: although since many EQs are not STABed, I can usually take one hit and Explode. Even if not many EQ users are slow! I will Explode on them, one of Meta's jobs.

This forum is called Rate my Team and yet we are talking about Rampardos and Pinsir in a ladder.. how useful. It would be much more helpful if we had constructive criticism.
 
I really don't understand though, everytime you post teams, somebody gives a suggestion and you don't want to do it, so what would be the point of this? It would help out to tell us what actually troubles you, if at all anything does. Anyways, there isn't much to fix here, offensive teams rely on prediction, although why not try Focus Punch > Focus Blast on Gengar? You have substitute, which helpes you out, and Sub + Focus Punch is a good stradegy, and can give you another way of beating Blisseys or it can be helpful in those times when accuracy fucks you up, becauser I don't like when it misses. I would suggest trying out Crunch on Lucario over Bullet Punch, as you are running a Metagross as a Gengar "counter" and Heatran can always take blows from Gengar, and revenge kill them back.

Like all offensive teams, prediction is they key to success with offensive teams, and this one is looking good.
 
Venom said:
I really don't understand though, everytime you post teams, somebody gives a suggestion and you don't want to do it, so what would be the point of this? It would help out to tell us what actually troubles you, if at all anything does. Anyways, there isn't much to fix here, offensive teams rely on prediction, although why not try Focus Punch > Focus Blast on Gengar? You have substitute, which helpes you out, and Sub + Focus Punch is a good stradegy, and can give you another way of beating Blisseys or it can be helpful in those times when accuracy fucks you up, becauser I don't like when it misses. I would suggest trying out Crunch on Lucario over Bullet Punch, as you are running a Metagross as a Gengar "counter" and Heatran can always take blows from Gengar, and revenge kill them back.

Like all offensive teams, prediction is they key to success with offensive teams, and this one is looking good.
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Oh yes, I have to take suggestions which I don't like to please other people. If you noticed I was going to put your suggestion of SDef Zapdos on my previous team and then you said "then Garchomp would rip you" or something like that so I decided not to.

No one even gave a suggestion yet. They were all talking about how PINSIR and RAMPARDOS would beat my team.

Sikh Assassin gave me a nice Suicune EV spread and if you read the earlier post I said I would try it, and actually I will probably add it.

I tried out Focus Punch earlier, I stated that in the post, and I found Focus Blast more useful because I frequently use Focus Blast without Substitute. I suppose I can try it again though.

Yeah I will try out Crunch too.

You at least gave proper suggestions and constructive criticism, not useless posts. Thank you.
 
ok rampardos and pinsir has mold breaker. scarf rampardos kills your team its faster then most of your pokemon also rock polish even more. all u have is suicune.pinsir choice banded. ohko's 4 people. probably even azelf. so u need to fix some pokemon oh and do you know why the 28 spD ivs are there for?
 
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ok rampardos and pinsir has mold breaker. scarf rampardos kills your team its faster then most of your pokemon. all u have is suicune.pinsir choice banded. ohko's 4 people. probably even azelf. so u need to fix some pokemon
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...What did I just talk about? The intelligence of some people is shocking.

Rampardos doesn't exist in ladders.

Pinsir doesn't exist in ladders.

So they are no problem.

Scarf Rampardos won't do enough damage to Suicune and it's stuck to one move.

I don't have to change my team because of pokemon which don't even exist in ladders.

Some people in the forum should be banned just for being stupid. Geniuses like you are the reason why I have no hope for humanity.
 
Seriously, if no one has identified any OU threats then you've made yourself a fine team. Simple as that.

Well your movesets seem fine that suit well for your team. Even with the Metagross, SubGengar can still be a problem (well for any team but be aware lol). Well sure you have Lum Berry, but it would be best to have a free switch-in so you can first Pursuit then Bullet Punch (or overpredict and use Pursuit again if necessary). This isn't a team rate, but just a suggestion (ah to hell of it, I got nothing and I just feel the need to post more other than nice team lol). Now for an actual suggestion, try Sleep Talk Metagross? The Metagross you have is probably better suited, but it's worth to try as much sets as possible until you find the one best suited.
 
Hm...I've been looking at that Suicune and comparing it to NP Togekiss. Obviously, it would be best to forego Roost for another attacking move like Tri Attack or Flamethrower.

It seems to work just as well with Lucario as Suicune did, and while you lose a Fire resistance, you would still have Heatran. However, then you might have problems with Water moves, even though you only have 1 weak to them.

Oh, about working with Lucario. Suicune resisted Fire which Lucario was weak to; you can switch to Heatran. Togekiss is immune to Ground (like Gengar and Azelf, however) which Lucario is weak to. Togekiss is also weak to Ice which Lucario resists (as well as two others on your team). Togekiss and Suicune are both weak to Electric.

I do realize your losing some defensive power with this switch. Togekiss ranks a little lower in both defense tiers; I think it's a little less than one in each. What's more, it is worse as Suicune Calm Minds (for Special Defense, that is).

Togekiss does have MUCH more power though, and Nasty Plot supes it up even faster. You may even have the chance to use Leftovers over a Life Orb on Togekiss.

Another problem with Togekiss is that it's slightly slower than Suicune. I don't know how much this would affect your strategy. With the Speed you're running on Suicune now, there's no way Togekiss could be faster.

Togekiss' movepool also seems to be a little better. Gosh, if you felt the need, you could replace Roost with Wish to try and help the team out more.

Obviously, you can tailor the Togekiss NP Sweeper moveset to your needs. I would assume you would change the move that goes in the slot with Roost, its item, its EV spread, and its nature. It mainly depends on how much Speed you want to run.
 
I think you should lower Metagross's Speed to 244 (184 EVs) since I don't think you're outspeeding anything with 251. Dump the remaining EVs into attack. Use a Hasty Nature on Heatran in my opinion, so you can take Zapdos- which can stop Lucario from sweeping somewhat- Thunderbolts better. You're usually OHKO'd by EQs and CCs anyway.
 
Juuka said:
I think you should lower Metagross's Speed to 244 (184 EVs) since I don't think you're outspeeding anything with 251. Dump the remaining EVs into attack. Use a Hasty Nature on Heatran in my opinion, so you can take Zapdos- which can stop Lucario from sweeping somewhat- Thunderbolts better. You're usually OHKO'd by EQs and CCs anyway.
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I'll do both, thanks.

Nice Metagross ;) and this team plays similarly to mine right down to the triple ground weakness and no stealth rock weak... hehe glad Garchomp's no longer around.

Lack of an electric resist means that Jolteon, Timid Zapdos, and Raikou can be quite troubling... and I'm not really fond of Choice items in teams like this as it can easily backfire on you and you quite simply cannot afford to give your opponent free turns with teams like this, unfortunately the easy way out of speed revenge killing, Deoxys-E is also gone hehe... but yeah something like Zapdos coming in on Heatran Earth Power or w/e spells out doom for one of your Pokemon. Cresselia can be quite a bitch to handle even with all the booms and Gengar flying around, although I haven't seen many on Suspect Test lately... Jolly DD Gyarados likes you too if Suicune is weakened enough/gone. This is a solid team overall though, no single overwhelming weakness I can spot, although there's a few combinations of Pokemon that can take advantage of your blind spots especially where Metagross is overwhelmed trying to handle everything from Starmie to Gengar to Cresselia onwards.
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Your team was probably the main influence. Although at first I just wanted to make a team with CM LO Suicune and SD Lucario.

Yeah, I've fought all those three and Zapdos was no problem, usually killed by Suicune. Raikou was a bigger problem and I had to play around it, luckily I won that game anyway. Jolteon was the biggest problem, he did large damage to anyone in my team. I don't remember who won that. Luckily he is pretty rare.

Choice Scarf saved me on many occasions, I will definitely not change it. Fire Blast has killed many Heracross and Celebi and the fast Explosion is really great too.

Cresselia can't take a strong boom, but you have a point.

I've battled many Gyarados and I had no trouble with them. Usually most people didn't expect Azelf to Explode on it and Suicune could take cae of him anyway.

Combinations are luckily much rarer than a single pokemon.

wow thats really dumb bl's play in ou.
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164. Pinsir (432133 points)
115. Rampardos (1195695 points)

Now those are really threats? No one barely even uses them.

You were wasting your time by talking about how much a pokemon that I probably won't even battle would beat me.
 
Nice team! Pretty solid too. And I congratulate you for making a team as good as this without using a Garchomp. >.< All other OU teams almost always carry a Garchomp. It's tiring always seeing it... And you've made your point on the Pinsir/Rampardos issue. Though I've seen some Rampardos, I haven't seen any Pinsirs yet in Ladder.

Anyway, great team. ^_^
 
.. and Metagross, Heatran and Lucario resist Stealth Rock.
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He doesn't, thanks to his dual typing.

And TTar only need 1 Dragon Dance to sweep this whole team. Suicune's surf won't do enough and residue damage will KO him the same turn. The only thing he doesn't outspeed after a Dragon Dance is Heatran, and Earth Power does lol damage.
 
And TTar only need 1 Dragon Dance to sweep this whole team.
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I have battled many Tyranitars with DD and never got swept by one.

Also I got on the top 50 of the suspect ladder with this team. Aiming for top 10.
 
Zephiel said:
I have battled many Tyranitars with DD and never got swept by one.

Also I got on the top 50 of the suspect ladder with this team. Aiming for top 10.
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Eh.. good job?

I'm really not feeling Heatran's place in this team. Also the lack of ground type to absorb T-Waves, something that fucks everything on this team up. Maybe SD Gliscor over and ScarfGross over ipl's gross. This would patch up the EQ weak issue and not add a SR Weak.
Also please change that Gengar. Just use the SubPunch one in the analysis.
 
I definitely agree on the necessity of something to negate a T-Wave. That could really screw up your tactic. A lot of your guys rely on speed and the inability to hit first could be their demise. While I'm not all that amazing at team rating, I can see why everyone is worried about you getting hit by EQs....but also why you are NOT worried about them. If you feel that strongly in your ability to dodge an EQ, how about an Electivire? He can absorb the Twaves you expect while gaining double the speed, playing right into your Quick-hitting tactic. You could use the normal set-up which does SE damage to 13/17 types.

I'm not sure who you'd take out, though.

Oh, and the Gliscor idea that above poster said sounded like another viable option...he also dodges EQs anyways. 2 commons moves being dodge is always nice.
 
your really that mad that you have 3 weakness'es to the most used type in the game? please fix your team and you still didnt give me the answer about the 28 spD ivs and life orb suicune thats dumb.
 
I'd heavily recommend lefties on gengar, it allows him to restore some hp after loss of hp due to substitute and negates ss damage. I've just found it really helpful on subgar.
 
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