Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 3 (Competitive Discussion)

Does Skymin even need a Hidden Power anymore?

Seed Flare/Air Slash/Earth Power/Psychic seems like a solid set to me.
 
Talk about egg moves... since gengar now gets trick, if I breed a trick rotom with gastly, will gastly get trick as its "egg move"?
 
Fire Punch Rampardos. Finally gets something to hit the Steels. With Adamant nature and Life Orb, it 2HKOs Skarm most of the time with Stealth Rock out (and that's 252/252 Impish Skarm, which isn't exactly the standard). It always 2HKOs Skarm when Banded and always 2HKOs 252/252 Bold Bronzong with +Atk nature and Life Orb.

I can see a Rock Polish/Fire Punch/Stone Edge/Earthquake set @ Life Orb being useful. Will Rampardos be able to live up to some of the hype it got pre-DP?

The problem with Rampardos has never been breaking walls, the problem is switching into them, and that he gets smashed by any neutral attack from sweepers and is slower than almost all of them. I'll stick with my endeavor set..
 
rampardos has always had earthquake to hit steels with lol, and you're forgetting it has mold breaker which makes bronzong's levitate useless. Fire Punch doesn't hit Skarm any harder than Stone Edge does. It would've been nicer if it got seed bomb for hippo and swampert instead of fire punch.
 
No. Unless they have changed the breeding mechanics.

Also, try to breed a Electivire couple, with the male holding Everstone (if it doesn't work, try with lol Light Ball), please.
 
Typhlosion: Fury Cutter, Fire Punch, ThunderPunch, Mud-slap, Rollout, Heat Wave
What the fuck. Special Ground attack would have been nice....you know actually focus on Sp.Atk EVs instead of a mixed set would make Scarf Eruption that much more deadly. Even Superpower to get through rocks and some waters, not to mention I hate FP on a Scarf set. Good to see T-Punch is back although it's not special anymore, won't get walled by Gyara so horribly.
 
Chatot gets Heat Wave, sweet! Time to start breeding Timid 'Tots. NP/Hyper Voice/Heat Wave/HP Ground could actually do some damage in UU now that he can vaporize Steels.
 
Am I the only one who thinks any pokémon with good Sp. Attack and Earthquake should've gotten Earth Power? I mean, what am I going to do with Earth Power on REGIROCK?
 
No. Unless they have changed the breeding mechanics.

Also, try to breed a Electivire couple, with the male holding Everstone (if it doesn't work, try with lol Light Ball), please.

I'm too sad to try anything else lol. I hate breeding lol.
 
I'm SRing for shaymin again now. I think 30/31 speed is going to be a lot more important than anything else at this point including hidden power. Getting ahead of weavile is big. >.>
 
The problem with Rampardos has never been breaking walls, the problem is switching into them, and that he gets smashed by any neutral attack from sweepers and is slower than almost all of them. I'll stick with my endeavor set..

My point was that it would make for an amazing CB set, one that doesn't really care about paralysis or poison. It does have good base HP, and in Sandstorm it can take weaker special hits without much trouble.

Bogmire, I know that it could already hit Bronzong and Skarm; using Fire Punch just takes a lot of chance out of the guessing game and ensures that you 2HKO Skarm, whereas you'd only have a 64% chance to do so with Stone Edge (due to its crappy accuracy). That's the same reason Thunder Punch will be useful; it allows Rampardos to hit those bulky waters without having to worry about missing with Stone Edge.
 
I'm SRing for shaymin again now. I think 30/31 speed is going to be a lot more important than anything else at this point including hidden power. Getting ahead of weavile is big. >.>

Since it cant get around Ice Shard, is it that important? Assuming Skymin stays in OU Id be willing to bet even more Weaviles will carry it.

Does Rampy get Ice Punch too?
 
I don't understand the hype about Rampardos...? Frankly speaking, Rampardos sucks. It dies to one hit (even with that high HP, don't know about SS), and it's not the sweeper/wall breaker people make it out to be. >_>;

Yes, I have used it. I promptly dropped it for the infinitely better Marowak.

Even Rhyperior is better.
 
I don't understand the hype about Rampardos...? Frankly speaking, Rampardos sucks. It dies to one hit (even with that high HP, don't know about SS), and it's not the sweeper/wall breaker people make it out to be. >_>;

Yes, I have used it. I promptly dropped it for the infinitely better Marowak.

Adamant-Sash RockPolish sets work pretty well, assuming your opponent doesnt have a priority move(I dont see that happening anymore..) but it does work.
 
Since it cant get around Ice Shard, is it that important? Assuming Skymin stays in OU Id be willing to bet even more Weaviles will carry it.

Does Rampy get Ice Punch too?

I'd rather have the speed than be taking a 31 sATK / 25 speed shaymin into battle I think . . .

Yeah there's ice shard, but getting ahead of what you are supposed to is still very important in my opinion.
 
I'm SRing for shaymin again now. I think 30/31 speed is going to be a lot more important than anything else at this point including hidden power. Getting ahead of weavile is big. >.>
No reason to SR for a Skymin until we get confirmation that it can actually be used in battle.
 
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