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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 3 (Competitive Discussion)
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I'm using Jirachi now. Sets up Stealth Rock, has Double Screen, and a Scarf to use with Trick :D Yes, I do know it does null damage, but doesn't DS Deoxys blay like that too? And I have the rest of the team to work with, anyway.
Well, now I'll play dumb sometimes on the ladder because it could be you using an alt, lol.
And strangely enough, I have seen more Salamences than Skymins. Good thing, because I think my team does have some problems with it (oh, really).
i heard it was confirmed that a tutor would be able to teach steelix curse...is this true? I dont see it on the tutor list anywhere...
I think it's a level up move.
Actually Flareon is doing pretty good at stopping Shaymin and Heatran for me. Can Handle Specsmences too and a lot of special attackers. Can even outstall Milotic and Vaporeon if they dont invest in SpA.Parasect getting Knock Off and Synthesis should really help it out in trick room teams.
Go Flareon! It looks a bit more usable now
If Origin Giratina is still required to hold its Platinum Orb, I vote that this could be allowed. The only problem is that using an AR for battles is kind of shady, even if it's done to use 'legal hacks'. It'd be hard to see if any other hacks were used, and it'd be hard to tell if Giratina-O was still holding its Platinum Orb, and not some other item that doesn't announce its existence, like an Expert Belt.
It shouldn't be allowed, and by definition it isn't even a "legal hack" since it breaks the limitations set by the source (in this case GF).
Even putting legality aside, an external device is required to use it. Therefore, those without the device are at a clear and unfair disadvantage.
Even putting legality aside, an external device is required to use it. Therefore, those without the device are at a clear and unfair disadvantage.
Well, if nothing else, that right there cements it.
It's perfectly fine, since they'll be usable on Shoddy.
Does Scizor getting bullet punch help it at all? It has low Bp (40+ technician = 60 + STAB 90) which makes it as strong as quick attack except quick attack is resisted by two types and is ineffective against one, whereas Bullet punch is resisted by three types and is super effective against two.
Actually Scizor has become a Top tier OU because of Swords Dance + Bullet Punch if I'm not wrong ^^U.
What set and EV spread do you use? I've always been interested in using a Flareon.
Huh? Quick Attack has 60 power with Technician. There's no STAB involved so I don't see how it is as strong as Bullet Punch.
Obviously so. The only two new things Scizor got that are commonly used are SuperPower and BulletPunch. There is clearly a reason why everyone is swooning over Bullet Punch. It destroys many fast/frail sweepers. Quick Attack is also only 60 base power without Stab.
My bad, I got carried away. I have calculated quick attack factoring technician for so long that I forgot it was actually just 40
Earth Power prediction can stop Flareon, and Flareon can't take repeated anything from Scizor.
Mixed though?
Flareon @ Life Orb/Leftovers
Flamethrower/SuperPower/Wish/Filler?
252 SpA...
Oh, it was Shaymin and Heatran. Yeah, Earth Power is a 2HKO from both (it barely survives three from Modest Scarftran) and Stealth Rock makes it really hard to play effectively. It can still sponge Seed Flare/Fire Blast/Air Slash hits but most Heatrans go straight for EP anyways because they're expecting other Heatrans. It definitely stops Scizor at least once and can maybe sneak in a Wish to heal every now and then.
It's not a sure-fire counter, but it can set up Wish, Yawn, or Toxic on the switches and gives you the advantage. Lava Plume seems more viable then Flamethrower so it can burn pokemon ready to come in and Earthquake. Toxic Stalling Bulky Waters is fun too. It can take LO hits from Scizors STAB attacks, watch out for Superpower. The good thing about Flareon is is that people don't know much about it. Scizor is usually faster and can finish it off with a Superpower but they don't have that knowledge.
38 in Platinum according to Bulbapedia.