Team Reckless OFFENSE!

[Indra]

This team is an all out offensive team that i made and is 10-0 =D. I am a reckless player, so i use 6 sweepers but these 6 sweepers actually work very good together. Anyways this is the line up!

(M) @ Focus Sash
Ability:Levitate
Evs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spd
Naive nature (+Spd -SDef)
-Stealth Rocks
-Explosion
-Psychic
-Flamethrower

My lead to get SR up asap, when i see the common suicude leads such as Infernape/Metagross/Aerodactyl/Azelf, i always try to get SR up first because that is what's needed, if i think a taunt is coming i obviously attack them 1st. I wanted to make a bulkier spread so i can live a meteor mash and a bullet punch from lead metagross because they were annoying, but i go lazy >_>. If anyone can help me here then thx :D. It would be much easier to get rid of the Occa so i can revenge kill it with my Heatran and not get EQ'd >:. Well yes this poke can look upon any ideas :D.
Azelf also attracts tyranitar to pursuit me so when i get SR up and die I can go to Lucario and try setting up :D

(M) @Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Evs: 252 SAtk/232 Spd/24 Atk
Naive nature (+Spd -SDef)
-Fire Blast
-Grass Knot
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Close Combat

MY FAVORITE SWEEPER :D, ever! This thing is beastly, if i can get rid of annoying Vaporeons and Starmies this thing just rapes other peoples teams =). Mostly stall. Hidden Power Ice since i don't like Nasty Plot too much =/. When i think about it...this team is Vaporeon and Starmie weak >_<. So anyways this pokemon is just add to my reckless OFFENSE ^_^. Good Stuff.

(M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Evs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Adamant nature (+Atk - SAtk)
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Extremespeed

TBH, the only thing that can actually do something to 100% Vaporeons and 100% Starmies without being OHKO'd =(. So anyways this rips through stall as well after a SD, which is easy to get in IMO. I always get 1 but a stupid gyarados always comes in >_>, but i CC anyways since this team is meant to Recklessly attack xD. Nothing much to say about this poke either D:.

@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
Evs: 252 SAtk/252 Spd/ 6 HP
Naive nature (+Spd - SDef)
-Fire Blast
-Explosion
-Dragon Pulse
-Earth Power

My revenge killer on the team that is super fast =D. This poke is great to have on any team since most people use Heatran as well. Fire Blast to sweep, Earth Power for other Heatrans, Dragon Pulse for those annoying Kingdra's and Salamence's. Explosion for the fat hoe (Blissey). Once again another reckless Atk'er. Nothing else to say =X.

@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Natural cure
Evs:100 HP / 252 SpA / 156 Spe
Timid nature (+SAtk -Atk)
-Leaf Storm
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Earth Power
-U-Turn

Ok, well i asked Earthworm about this team and told me 2 things to change. 1st was this. This celebi works very well with my team, Scarfed Leaf Storm is crazy good! This pokemon hits hard and scouts which was one or the other with my previous pokes.Leaf Storm for STAB, Hidden Power Ice to KO the dragons after a DD. Earth Power for Heatran and U-Turn to scout. This pokemon also helped my ground weak from before ^_^.

(M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Evs: 252Atk/176 Spd/ 80 HP
Adamant nature (+Atk -SAtk)
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Stone Edge
-Bounce
BOUNCE GYARA!!! This thing MAKES IT RAIN ON CELEBI's. Bounce Gyara is the best Gyara, Vaporeon is the only downside to this and faster things. Bounce is to OHKO Celebi after SR and this is just much better than life orb 252/252 Gyara xD. Changed the EV Spread to a little bulkier spread and Took of EQ for Bounce. Just a good pokemon overall.

Anyways this was the team i am currently using and would like some feedback and see what to do with my weaknesses. ^_^




~Light-Kun

 

[chenman333]

If getting rocks is what you want, then fine. But you know what, I say just go all the way and use your own Metagross suicide lead. There is a reason it is so popular; it is fucking good. If you don't want to and want a way to beat them, you could Infernape, who beats the EQless ones. Unfortunately, there are no perfect leads that cover every other leads; they all suck vs. something. As of now however, Metagross tends to kick more ass and suck less then others. Could change though.

Sorry to say, but in my opinion Infernape is the weak link on this team. He needs Starmie and Vap dead, but so does everyone else; and no one else can do it either very well, bar Explosion from Heatran. So in that case, I would swap him out for the ultimate bulky water killer; Celebi, who also helps with your rather gaping Gyara/Salamence weak. Just run the standard defensive (252 HP/220 Def/36 Spd Bold) (T Wave/Grass Knot/Leech Seed/Recover)

I would be a bit careful with him early (those pesky T Tars and Scizors), but you have both of them covered pretty well; it is suggested you do a bit of dry switching when you bring Celebi out. HP Fire is a possiblity.

Unfortunatlely, Celebi is crippled badly by offensive Cune too, but at least it makes it somewhat better (Infernape dies to it...). Gotta do a bit of careful predicting when dealing with it.

Yeah, Celebi sorta fits poorly in the offensive sort of thing, but it is the only thing I can think of that can solve a lot of your problems at once.

Mixmence is another option; he does beat bulky waters quite well (when you get him in and stuff), and can beat a Gyara/Salamence when they don't get DDs.

Actually, a LO Cune could also fit the bill; its a decent check vs. Gyara, can somewhat take on Mence, and it can beat bulky waters.

 

[Indra]

If getting rocks is what you want, then fine. But you know what, I say just go all the way and use your own Metagross suicide lead. There is a reason it is so popular; it is fucking good. If you don't want to and want a way to beat them, you could Infernape, who beats the EQless ones. Unfortunately, there are no perfect leads that cover every other leads; they all suck vs. something. As of now however, Metagross tends to kick more ass and suck less then others. Could change though.

Sorry to say, but in my opinion Infernape is the weak link on this team. He needs Starmie and Vap dead, but so does everyone else; and no one else can do it either very well, bar Explosion from Heatran. So in that case, I would swap him out for the ultimate bulky water killer; Celebi, who also helps with your rather gaping Gyara/Salamence weak. Just run the standard defensive (252 HP/220 Def/36 Spd Bold) (T Wave/Grass Knot/Leech Seed/Recover)

I would be a bit careful with him early (those pesky T Tars and Scizors), but you have both of them covered pretty well; it is suggested you do a bit of dry switching when you bring Celebi out. HP Fire is a possiblity.

Unfortunatlely, Celebi is crippled badly by offensive Cune too, but at least it makes it somewhat better (Infernape dies to it...). Gotta do a bit of careful predicting when dealing with it.

Yeah, Celebi sorta fits poorly in the offensive sort of thing, but it is the only thing I can think of that can solve a lot of your problems at once.

Well thanks for the rate and ehh i just don't like metagross =(, but i will try it and celebi on an offensive team was what i had on my old offensive team but i didn't like it.. I rather just recklessly attack and weaken the bulky waters then sweep somehow xD. Well when i see a vaporeon the only thing i can do is go to Lucario hoping they wish after taking damage from the attack they switched into, and i SD then they surf. I CC and see what happens from there.. =/. I've tried Cele anyways and didn't like it. thanks for the rate though =). Hoping for more criticism.

 

[KingFresh]

As stated in your post, waters give you some trouble here. You'll need to do some tricking of some sort to not get chipped to death by residual damage as well. It looks fairly easy to stall your team out. You're relying on making some good guesses early, which personally isn't preferred by me, but go ahead and use it if it continues to work.

I'm also not exactly sure how you're dealing with fighting types, scarfed in specific. Gyarados won't be taking a beating with a life orb attached to him, and it will be a matter of time before your team crumbles in that situation.

Perhaps changing Lucario to Ice punch over Crunch, and using Tyranitar over Flygon can work. Though, it won't be comfortable taking T Bolts as often, but at least you can pursuit Rotom and friends and continue your Luke sweep.

 

[Huntofthelion]

Nice team, I know you said you don't like NP on ape, but it would help with vaporeon. Just a thought, not much else to say. Looks solid.

 

[reyscarface]

ok.

Wanna get Rid of Waters?

Jolteon is the answer. Jolteon/Gyara/Heatran is an excellent offensive combo.

Now 2 Scarfs in one team seems too much IMO
U can Replace Flygon with Jolteon.

Anyways Good Team.

If u want to keep Flygon, dont use Adamant. After a DD a 176 EVs in Speed mence will outspeed you and kill which is very bad.

 

[Indra]

Kingfresh: Yeah, your right about the waters problem ehh i do somehow manage to SD on there face and KO with CC with Lucario though xD. Also like i said with Gyarados i might give it 72 evs in HP and give it leftovers ehh idk.


HuntOfTheLion: Uhh NP Grass Knot doesn't KO Vaporeon anyways so ehh.


ReyScarface: Ooo That is a good idea but idk i like the offense as it is now, but when i think about it i only have 1 SAtker anyways 1 more wouldnt hurt ^_^.



Thanks for the rate guys i will test out the Jolteon>Flygon thing.

 

[reyscarface]

Jolteon FTW :3

Hope it works for you.

Recommendation:

Jolteon @ Specs
252 Sp Attack / 252 Speed / 6 Sp Def. Timid
· ThunderBolt
· HP Ice/Grass
· Shadow Ball
· Signal Beam / Baton Pass

 

[kaonohiokala]

EVs

SPEEEEED. That's the easiest mistake to look for in RMTs, so I'll cover that for now.

Right now you've got Gyarados maxed Speed, which is pretty pointless since there isn't much of anything that you can outspeed maxing than you would giving it a MAGICAL NUMBER.

232 EVs - To outspeed +base 125 (Weavile, Swellow)
204 EVs - To outspeed +base 120 (Dugtrio, Alakazam, Sceptile)
176 EVs - To outspeed +base 115 (Azelf, Starmie, Ambipom, Raikou, UU crap)

I'd say go with 176 EVs and dump the rest in HP, but it all depends on whether or not you want to outspeed certain Pokemon.

Flygon's Speed is pretty good, but a bit off.

172 EVs - Outspeed Electrode
112 EVs - Outspeed +base 130 (you know this)


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Bulky waters are raep to your team. :jump:

I second swapping out a Pokemon for SpecsJolteon. It hits hard and fast. You should probably go with HP Grass on it though, since usually what you'll use HP Ice on are Dragon Dancers, which will simply outspeed anyways. The only real usage for HP Ice would probably be Gliscor, which some other member of your team can handle. HP Grass just hits Swampert, which is a bulky water, and therefore raep to your team.

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[Indra]

SPEEEEED. That's the easiest mistake to look for in RMTs, so I'll cover that for now.

Right now you've got Gyarados maxed Speed, which is pretty pointless since there isn't much of anything that you can outspeed maxing than you would giving it a MAGICAL NUMBER.

232 EVs - To outspeed +base 125 (Weavile, Swellow)
204 EVs - To outspeed +base 120 (Dugtrio, Alakazam, Sceptile)
176 EVs - To outspeed +base 115 (Azelf, Starmie, Ambipom, Raikou, UU crap)

I'd say go with 176 EVs and dump the rest in HP, but it all depends on whether or not you want to outspeed certain Pokemon.

Flygon's Speed is pretty good, but a bit off.

172 EVs - Outspeed Electrode
112 EVs - Outspeed +base 130 (you know this)


NEXT
Bulky waters are raep to your team. :jump:

I second swapping out a Pokemon for SpecsJolteon. It hits hard and fast. You should probably go with HP Grass on it though, since usually what you'll use HP Ice on are Dragon Dancers, which will simply outspeed anyways. The only real usage for HP Ice would probably be Gliscor, which some other member of your team can handle. HP Grass just hits Swampert, which is a bulky water, and therefore raep to your team.

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1st off ROFL at :jump::jump::jump: posts, ok since we're done with that...


Yea the 2nd person to say specs jolt is good I guess im changing crappy flygon to specs jolt :jump:


THANKS FOR THE RATE ^____^

 

[ToF]

Or to handle your bulky water problem, you can simply run Nasty Plot over Hidden Power Ice. With the combination of Flygon and Heatran, your dragon coverage is fairly solid as is. Why not just remedy your issue with stuff like Suicune by boosting the power of Grass Knot?

Stuff like Starmie is handled after a DD by Gyarados, and if you understand the concept of lures, Gyarados can weaken Vaporeon to a point where your other Pokemon can revenge kill and possibly set up Infernape to sweep. Actually, in general, I'm not sure why you have such an issue with any bulky water bar Gyarados. You have Lucario to set up and KO Swampert and Vaporeon with a +2 CC, almost KO Suicune, and possibly KO Starmie with Extremespeed.

As with any offensive team, it comes down to proper switching and playstyle. If bulky waters are that troublesome, give NP Ape a go and see if it remedies your problem, though I really fail to see any glaring holes to be honest.

 

[Indra]

Or to handle your bulky water problem, you can simply run Nasty Plot over Hidden Power Ice. With the combination of Flygon and Heatran, your dragon coverage is fairly solid as is. Why not just remedy your issue with stuff like Suicune by boosting the power of Grass Knot?

Stuff like Starmie is handled after a DD by Gyarados, and if you understand the concept of lures, Gyarados can weaken Vaporeon to a point where your other Pokemon can revenge kill and possibly set up Infernape to sweep. Actually, in general, I'm not sure why you have such an issue with any bulky water bar Gyarados. You have Lucario to set up and KO Swampert and Vaporeon with a +2 CC, almost KO Suicune, and possibly KO Starmie with Extremespeed.

As with any offensive team, it comes down to proper switching and playstyle. If bulky waters are that troublesome, give NP Ape a go and see if it remedies your problem, though I really fail to see any glaring holes to be honest.

Well im only threatened by Vaporeon, the other bulky waters i manage somehow lol, and i don't want to change Mixape with HP ice to a NP Ape because i dont want a mence to get a DD and sweep. I know NP Fire Blast OHKO after SR but i rather sweep without setting up with Infernape. Thanks for the idea though, i rather just chcange Flygon to Jolteon =).





Ok This Teams Updates will be In The Color GREEN

 

[TeaBag]

You mention you miss Flygon's U-turn, but you have Signal Beam over Baton Pass on Jolteon. I strongly recommend Baton Pass over Signal Beam unless you have severe Celebi issues (which you don't - Infernape and Lucario make short work of her).

 

[Indra]

You mention you miss Flygon's U-turn, but you have Signal Beam over Baton Pass on Jolteon. I strongly recommend Baton Pass over Signal Beam unless you have severe Celebi issues (which you don't - Infernape and Lucario make short work of her).

Look at topic again =P, changed the team pretty fast..Jolteon was garbage rofl.

 

[Indra]

BUMP!